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Re:What Data Compression Does to Music (2012) by amgutier on Friday January 04, 2019 @09:07PM (#18829439)
I've conducted several A/B tests back when I had nothing better to do and it was a very education experience. I used a recording of a harpsichord, using lame V5 mp3s, and came away with a statistically significant result (I remember taking 14 trials, though I don't remember what my actual true positive rate was)

After all of that, though I had double blind evidence I could hear a difference, I knew I didn't really care about that difference. I couldn't even describe the difference - it was almost subliminal. And that was with a harpsichord, which is a known difficult sound to encode. I've been a lot more comfortable knowing lossy encoding isn't destroying my music enjoyment since those tests.

Re:What Data Compression Does to Music (2012) by glandium on Friday January 04, 2019 @09:31PM (#18829521)
There are different things that could be found through tests, but I don't think I've seen tests being really extensive.

The interesting questions to me:

- Can a difference be heard?

- If yes, are people able to reliably identify A vs B (as in, can people identify whether it's A or B rather that whatever they listen now is not the same as the last they heard)

- If they can identify a difference, which sounds better to them?

- Do different headphones give different results?

- Same question with headphones vs speakers?

Re:What Data Compression Does to Music (2012) by TheOtherHobbes on Saturday January 05, 2019 @06:27AM (#18831136)
The answer to the last two questions is easy - yes to both.

There are absolutely huge differences between budget consumer and high-end professional equipment. There are also huge differences between high-end audiophile and professional equipment - the former being designed to flatter and enhance the sound, the latter being as neutral as possible.

A good few years ago a high-end audiophile CD/DAC maker was caught deliberately rolling off the top end on their equipment to make it sound smoother and "less digital."

It wasn't accurate, but a lot of people liked the sound enough to pay five figures for the boxes they made.

Professional audio has a different goal. The aim is to create a mix that "translates" - sounds good on as many different systems as possible, from budget earbuds to audiophile.

For a long time studios used a pair of shitty Yamaha bookshelf speakers called NS10s next to their ultra-expensive reference speakers. NS10s were almost the worst speaker ever. But if a mix sounded good on the NS10s, it sounded good on anything.

Re:What Data Compression Does to Music (2012) by amgutier on Saturday January 05, 2019 @12:50PM (#18833010)
Blind testing is good for the first two questions, but it's next to impossible to blind test headphones.

The question of preference, though, is what matters, and that's where I am now firmly convinced lossy compression is fine for me: the sort of differences that I could hear made zero difference to my enjoyment of actual music.