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Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by wmf on Thursday January 03, 2019 @08:44PM (#18821283)
Pretty much everyone with knowledge of mainstream (non-Austrian) economics came up with the idea of non-deflationary cryptocurrency (keynescoins) around 10 years ago. That's how you can tell that everyone who says "it's about payments/adoption/etc not speculation" is lying because why would they make it deflationary.

Also, fixed linear emission is pretty much the second worst possible monetary policy and I think it's basically a way to have plausibly deniable deflation. If Grin adoption follows an S-curve then 50%/year emission won't be noticeably different from 0%. (And if it doesn't follow an S-curve then it has failed anyway.)

Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by vbs_redlof on Friday January 04, 2019 @07:06AM (#18823421)
A 50% emission rate is incredibly high. Any linear emission rate will tend towards 0% as the number of coins in circulation gets larger and larger (assuming none are accidentally lost).

Deflationary money can theoretically work, its just that instead of having the vendor adjust menu prices every year for inflation, consumers would have to discount their purchases. For instance, during the 2017 boom, I noticed friends often paid each other for dinner with Ethereum at large discounts.

Obviously this isn't price efficient, and the mental calculus isn't a great user experience, but it can work. We would just live in a much more frugal society which saved a little more. We could have lower defaults as we underconsume. A credit system probably wouldn't work however as we're destroyed the concept of time value of money.

Imagine a thirsty tourist in a desert might be unwilling to part with his Bitcoin for a meal, but willing to do so for a bottle of water as his instantaneous discount rate for water is far higher at that point in time and state.

Whether a coin is inflationary or deflationary is a little more nuanced than simple changes in money supply, and has to do with whether these changes are unanticipated and how users form inflation expectations. Imagine if Satoshi's account suddenly awoke and moved, only to burn those coins in another address. There would be momentary hysteria and selloffs, before inflation expectations readjusted back to before.

You'll see that price levels are relatively indeterminate without strong commitments to target inflation rates. In that sense a bank may be better than a non-sovereign currency at maintaining price stability.

Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by koheripbal on Friday January 04, 2019 @02:45PM (#18827060)
> A credit system probably wouldn't work however as we're destroyed the concept of time value of money.

This is spot on and is the main problem. This destroys all lending, which prevents various forms of capital investment - the cornerstone of economic growth.

Like it or not, inflation is a key component to any currency. ...and as you said, increasing the money supply doesn't even guarentee inflation - but contracting it absolutely spells deflation - which is death.

Ideally a "better" cryptocurrency would detect the velocity of money within its own blockchain, and calculate the appropriate amount of inflation (or even deflation) to keep the scarcity of currency stable.

If you imagine that a currency is like blood in a body, then as the body grows (or shrinks), the blood volume must adjust accordingly. Fundamentally, the function of currency is not to save - it is to spend.

Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by jonnydubowsky on Thursday January 03, 2019 @09:13PM (#18821424)
Thanks for the commentary. Do you think any cryptocurrency has applied effective monetary policy that addresses the issues described elsewhere in thus thread? Do you think token curated registries might be a reasonable context to explore game theory and monetary policy in a more iterative and experimental fashion?
Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by wmf on Thursday January 03, 2019 @10:00PM (#18821621)
I think stablecoins are a good idea but curiously (not really) no one accepts them for payments.

I wasn't aware of token curated registries but after skimming the paper (seems to be something like a prediction market?) I don't understand the connection to monetary policy.

Re:Grin – A private and lightweight mimblewimble blockchain by xkarga00 on Friday January 04, 2019 @06:52AM (#18823373)
Too many game theoretic attacks with stablecoins - still unproven.