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Re:The relentless honesty of Ludwig Wittgenstein (2017) by mrleiter on Thursday January 03, 2019 @09:09AM (#18815164)
I wouldn't call it unethical, but unfair. It happens mostly in the more extreme corners of the political spectrum, whether it is right or left. That perspective of non-discussion has gained a strong foothold in the "center" unfortunately, too, recently. I believe many people have the feeling that they haven't been heard and thus are not interested in listening any more.

It's not an irreversible trend, I suppose, if each and everyone of us manages to take one step back and start listening again.

Re:The relentless honesty of Ludwig Wittgenstein (2017) by wallace_f on Thursday January 03, 2019 @11:46AM (#18816486)
Yea that's what I was thinking, and also along with another idea about experimentation. People on both sides can become even intolerant of the other's rights to their civil libertiea and democratic right of self-governance. What I mean, in practice, is that if a state wants to legalize a plant, run its own healthcare system, well in fact they should be encouraged to do so. We should be to some extent tolerant of these experiments and competition among states in social policy. It is consistent with democracy and what the Founding Fathers intended. But instead everyone wants to command the authority of the central government to demand everyone has to do it their way, and the results end up really egregiously bad as you can see today.
Re:The relentless honesty of Ludwig Wittgenstein (2017) by bobthechef on Thursday January 03, 2019 @06:09PM (#18820273)
You seem to be assuming a great deal of things axiomatically. All of your claims are subject to philosophical discussion. The "Founding Fathers" are not God. Liberalism, democracy, and civil liberties are not given and obvious goods (Plato saw democracy as the worst form of government and one that degenerates into tyranny, probably more through ethos than procedure).