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Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by throwaway2048 on Monday December 31, 2018 @06:43PM (#18797856)
What makes it fraud, what makes them calling themselves a lawyer not valid, if not the law?
Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by gambiting on Monday December 31, 2018 @06:49PM (#18797894)
Fraud is lying for financial gain. Lying for its own sake is not. You can say and pretend you are a lawyer as much as you like, but only as long as you don't do it to decieve someone for money.
Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by throwaway2048 on Monday December 31, 2018 @07:35PM (#18798113)
I read become a lawyer in 8 hours the howto book, am i still committing fraud?
Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by not_kurt_godel on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @12:04AM (#18799019)
Yes.
Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by throwaway2048 on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @11:59AM (#18800949)
So its almost like there is still a legal standard for what a lawyer is
Re:Federal judge finds state law governing who is an enginee... by gambiting on Tuesday January 01, 2019 @12:23PM (#18801096)
I'm not sure what your point is. That's exactly what we are saying - there is a legal standard for actually being a lawyer.

But, we are also saying there shouldn't be any repercusions for someone just saying that they are a lawyer in any non-financial, non-professional context. If you go out and say to someone "hey, I'm a lawyer and I am very smart" then this shouldn't be illegal in any way or form, just like saying you are a pope or Bonaparte isn't - you're just making an idiot out of yourself. As long as you don't go and act as a lawyer(try to represent people for money for instance) then knock yourself out. This should be double obvious seeing as we're on the internet, where you can say you are a noble-winning physicist or a NASA engineer and without a way to verify it it matters nothing. It is scummy, immoral, unfair to lie about it? Of course it is. But it shouldn't be illegal.