Can you please not post in the flamewar style to Hacker News? It leads to dumb discussion and, worse, it damages the container here.

Generic ideological tangents are particularly tedious and off topic. We don't need yet another flamewar about "Western civilization" or "the value of reason" or whatever. An internet forum is not capable of producing anything new about anything so grandiose—only pomposity and anger.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html