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Re:Fundamental rule of traffic: building new roads makes peo... by CalRobert on Saturday December 29, 2018 @08:01AM (#18783381)
We both want affordable housing. I just want it to be legal to build it closer to jobs.

Driving is dangerous, as are its byproducts. More driving kills more people.

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Re:Fundamental rule of traffic: building new roads makes peo... by pavelrub on Saturday December 29, 2018 @10:49AM (#18784093)
If the choice is between cheaper housing with a longer commute, or expensive housing with shorter commute, it's completely unclear that the latter is more beneficial to humanity than the former, even if we only consider the number of deaths caused by each scenario. At the very least you haven't presented any evidence that this is so.
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Re:Fundamental rule of traffic: building new roads makes peo... by CalRobert on Saturday December 29, 2018 @11:12AM (#18784212)
That is not the choice.
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Re:Fundamental rule of traffic: building new roads makes peo... by pavelrub on Saturday December 29, 2018 @11:26AM (#18784276)
When people say that doing X has "negative value", they usually mean that it has negative value compared to not doing X, not compared to some imaginary solution that doesn't exist in reality.
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