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Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by platz on Thursday December 27, 2018 @10:50AM (#18770141)
I thought there were a few required proteins that were very hard to supply in the body without an animal source
Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by hkyeti on Thursday December 27, 2018 @12:48PM (#18771062)
No, that myth was debunked decades ago. You can get all essential amino acids from a normal variety of plant foods, and the body combines them naturally. Or in case of some all essential amino acids are in the same plant.
Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by nec4b on Thursday December 27, 2018 @01:31PM (#18771352)
Tell that to the doctors that have to save malnourished vegan children.
Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by spraak on Thursday December 27, 2018 @12:44PM (#18771028)
All amino acids originate from non-animals (plants, microbes). Where do you think other animals get their essential amino acids? They eat plants or eat an animal that ate plants. All plant proteins have all of the essential amino acids. The only truly “incomplete” protein is gelatin, which is missing the amino acid tryptophan, so the only protein source you couldn’t live on is Jello.
Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday December 27, 2018 @12:57PM (#18771135)
Basically all of your comment is false. Humans can synthesize many amino acids. That is the defining difference between non-essential vs. essential amino acids.

And there are lots of plant sources that are missing or insufficient in essential amino acids. Beans, for example, are lacking in methionine, which is why corn and beans are eaten together in some traditional diets.

Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by spraak on Thursday December 27, 2018 @03:56PM (#18772572)
Sorry, all essential* amino acids come from plants or microbes. Beans, e.g. pinto, do have methionine, but corn has even less, so I don't see your point.

Besides, you probably don't want a lot of methionine in your diet (it's linked to feeding cancer) [1..7].

Further, you're recycling the tired myth that "protein comibing" is necessary. Our body maintains pools of free amino acids by dumping protein into the digestive tract, which are broken down and reassembled, i.e. it does the protein combining for us, it's not necessary to explicitly do it through meals if you're otherwise eating a varied diet that sufficient in calories.

[1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22171665 [2] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600 [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547 [4] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18252204 [5] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103 [6] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11603655 [7] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14585259

Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by alangpierce on Thursday December 27, 2018 @01:57PM (#18771585)
Soylent is vegan and nutritionally complete, so there are definitely cheap-to-produce ways to make it work.
Re:Japan to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission by tree_of_item on Thursday December 27, 2018 @12:39PM (#18770991)
I thought the same. I get the sense people gloss over this in their promotion of vegetarianism/veganism