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Re:Rome in Ruins by fyfy18 on Tuesday December 25, 2018 @11:39PM (#18760556)
Spain is in the same situation, although maybe not so pronounced yet. It's a stark contrast to post-Soviet countries, which are relatively well maintained and seeing trash dumped is practically unheard of.
Re:Rome in Ruins by pfdzm on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @07:03AM (#18761764)
I’m from Madrid and, having recently been to Rome, would have to disagree.

While Spain is certainly not on Switzerland or Japan’s level of cleanliness, I think it is miles away from Italy. Just the taxi ride from Fiumicino to Rome made me feel like I was in Brazil again - crooked, dirty road signs, wild vegetation growing everywhere, fading markings/lines, and a general state of chaos on every road.

Re:Rome in Ruins by nonphotosynthes on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @09:24AM (#18762254)
I disagree. I recently spent three months traveling Spain and found myself consistently impressed with the cleanliness of it. It’s not uncommon to see someone carry a spray bottle full of cleaning fluid to spray after their dog’s urinated. I’ve never seen that happen anywhere else.
Re:Rome in Ruins by runn1ng on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @02:41AM (#18761134)
Interesting, I am from Czech Republic, I was in Spain recently and I didn't feel like that at all. I have been mostly in Andalusia and the cities look great, Madrid looked fine as well.
Re:Rome in Ruins by fierarul on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @03:33AM (#18761271)
Madrid is a fine city but I also was 'lucky' to visit it while there was a huge demonstration occupying the city centre. Didn't look so well during that time. I think right before that the garbage men had a strike leaving all the trash on the streets.

I guess in a way it doesn't take much to make a city look clean (or dirty) but it takes a lot of work for it to be constantly good looking.