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Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by adrianN on Monday December 24, 2018 @01:10AM (#18750699)
If you want to scare people you can tell them that Phytoplankton is sensitive to ocean warming and has been declining over the last century [1] (and the situation has not improved since 2010 [2]). On land, plants don't really like global heating either [3]. Together these effects directly threaten not only the food chain, but oxygen supply itself.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/nature09268

[2] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ocean-p...

[3] https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/jou...

Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by PeterisP on Monday December 24, 2018 @01:22AM (#18750740)
That's a prime example of what I'm talking about - vague statements ("sensitive", "decline", "threaten") about global effects on complex systems ("the food chain").

What is the expected specific, immediate, local effect of that? Can you tell a particular person (the abovementioned Midwest farmer) some particular clear consequence of phytoplankton decline he's going to personally experience in his lifetime (say, 2070) or the lifetime of his kids (say, 2100) if he doesn't do the utmost to prevent climate change change ?

The articles you quoted make no really scary (to the target audience) claims whatsoever. The third includes an expected impact on agriculture (https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article/figure/image?d...) which shows neutral or even positive effects on agriculture in much of first world (and horrible effects on Brasil and SE Asia, but that's not relevant to the USA consumer whom we're asking to change habits).