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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by gsich on Saturday December 22, 2018 @04:48AM (#18739889)
You can bet that they save every audio sample you generate.
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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by sascha_sl on Saturday December 22, 2018 @12:31PM (#18741506)
the GDPR data takeout option (maybe only for european users) contains a lot of creepy shit (essentially every click and mouse movement), but no audio data
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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by gsich on Monday December 24, 2018 @11:26PM (#18755889)
I tried that. The lack of mentioning voice data in their privacy page is disturbing.

Except one mention:

>Developers: Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata.

Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere.

Also,

>... your activities within the Services

is very vague. The lack of mentioning voice data is probably because of the huge backlash. Wiretapping every user.

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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by vel0city on Sunday December 30, 2018 @12:36AM (#18787618)
> Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere.

That's not necessarily true. "voice metadata" could be things like quality settings, latency history, when you join a voice channel, when you leave a voice channel, etc. It may have a lot of metadata about it without actually storing the audio streams.

A phone PBX will have tons of metadata about calls placed through it, but it might not bother recording every call that goes through it.

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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by starshadowx2 on Monday December 24, 2018 @12:03PM (#18753000)
It's not creepy. Discord tracks mouse movements to tell when you're hovering over something and tracks clicks to tell when you've clicked on something. It's just how the client works.
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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by gsich on Monday December 24, 2018 @11:23PM (#18755883)
It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.
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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by starshadowx2 on Tuesday December 25, 2018 @05:20AM (#18756825)
Are you a Discord developer? It does need to be transmitted for it to work based on how Discord is made. Your argument would be better written as, "I believe Discord could be made differently for this not to be needed."

I did see a video or article on it earlier, I wish I still knew where to find that.

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Re:Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation by gsich on Tuesday December 25, 2018 @10:37AM (#18757764)
Common sense. It does not. In fact I just tried it. Went offline, and clicked some settings in the Discord program. It worked. Chat messages from a channel also worked (those preloaded of course) and clicking a link opens the browser. No need for sending cursor information anywhere for this to work.

So tell me again, why does Discord need cursor movements to work?

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