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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by andy_ppp on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:42PM (#18729407)
Qualcomm presumably know Apple are intending to completely replace them soon then; I’m pretty sure this sort of action will prove to be very bad for Qualcomm - if you are willing to sue Apple no customer is safe!
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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by bunnycorn on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:27PM (#18729758)
Apple already 100% replaced them.

Every 2018 model has Intel modems.

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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by usrusr on Thursday December 20, 2018 @07:23PM (#18730497)
I wonder how many would-be customers of the affected phones are now self-upselling to a younger, more expensive model. This could be surprisingly painless for Apple. Lure people into stores with relatively cheap offers, then declare them unavailable: if they did the same thing without Qualcommm's involvement, it would be an illegal sales tactic.
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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by bunnycorn on Friday December 21, 2018 @11:47PM (#18738973)
Apple is still selling them in Germany, the article looks like it's final, but it's not.
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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by andy_ppp on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:58PM (#18730006)
Seems to be super coincidental doesn’t it...
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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by bunnycorn on Friday December 21, 2018 @11:48PM (#18738976)
It's not, Qualcomm is suing Apple because Apple dropped them. They have nothing to lose now.
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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by ksec on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:12PM (#18731178)
You can only replace them in hardware terms. Apple will still need to pay Qualcomm in 2G-5G patents fees, as well as all other patents Qualcomm holds, from Graphics, Power Management, DSP, etc etc. Of Course the reverse is also true that there is a high probability Qualcomm would have also infringe on certain Apple's patents.

Most customer already has a deal in place with Qualcomm or are using Qualcomm SoC. The only one who could try to have a go against Qualcomm would be Samsung and Huawei. Both seems to have a decent relationship with Qualcomm, for now.

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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by stefan_ on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:40PM (#18731458)
The reason for this entire conflict is Qualcomm asking for a percentage royalty of the entire device.

When you use an Intel radio, sure Intel needs to license the 2G-5G patents, but those are FRAND, and no legal interpretation in the world would ever entitle Qualcomm to a percentage of an iPhone using an Intel radio.

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Re:Apple to pull some iPhones in Germany as Qualcomm extends... by ksec on Friday December 21, 2018 @02:01AM (#18731866)
A lot of people thinks it is the percentage that is the problem. It Is not. Ericsson, Nokia, ZTE, LG, Samsung, Huawei along with a few others all charges percentage of Phone for their Royalty ( Or at least it used to be ). I can guarantee you Apple would have no problem with Qualcomm if the percentage were only 0.1%.

And it is not like Intel has already paid any license fo 2G-5G patents to Qualcomm ( They haven't ), and Qualcomm recollect another set of license fees from Apple ( Or more accurately from Foxconn ).

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