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Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by falcolas on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:25PM (#18728774)
Point 1: Keyword triggers and is actually said are miles apart, as shown by the Alexa creepy laugh episode. There is no practical way of knowing when Alexa has heard a keyword and recorded content around it. Not to mention the Google play incident where a poor wiring job made the devices think the "enable assistant" button was constantly being pressed.

Point 2: My phone, an iPhone, offers a way to turn off the keyword-listening functionality - and presents this switch during initial setup. It also offers a way to turn off all tracking functionality. Apple has no financial gain from lying about this.

Point 3: This comes back to point 1. If you don't know what and when the assistant is listening to, you have no idea what phrases are being collected and shipped off. Also, there are plenty of studies floating about the internet about how "anonymized" search engine queries have been collected, studied, and in many cases paint very personal portraits of the people doing searches.

Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by JeremyBanks on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:46PM (#18728970)
> There is no practical way of knowing when Alexa has heard a keyword and recorded content around it.

I know this isn't the kind of certainty you're looking for, but Google Home and Alexa both allow you to enable audio cues for when they start and stop recording. I find this helpful from an accessibility perspective, but the privacy-conscious may also appreciate the indicator.

Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by ben174 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:11PM (#18729151)
They also have visual cues enabled by default. The light turns on when it is listening. You quickly get an idea of when it is recording and when it is not. And it rarely falsely triggers.
Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by snazz on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:48PM (#18728981)
Point 2: Although you’re right about the application processor side of your phone, you cannot disable a significant amount of tracking functionality built into the baseband/modem. Your cell carrier or ISP can track you the same way that Google could on an Android device. On the other hand, iPhone basebands usually don’t have DMA, while other phone manufacturers allow the modem to access application processor RAM.

The iPhone has a lot less tracking built in and has much better privacy controls than Android with Google Play Services, but there are still some avenues for different companies to track you and to have a lot of control over your device.

Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by saagarjha on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:16PM (#18729670)
Cell carriers can track iPhones as well through triangulation, etc. There’s not much you can do to prevent this.
Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by A2017U1 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:27PM (#18730786)
You can simply turn on airplane mode?
Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by pizza on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:37PM (#18728888)
Re: point 3, I was reading Kevin Murphy's book on Machine Learning recently and in it he says that roughly 20% of Google search queries that come in everyday have never been seen before. Reminds me of that report about Russian election interference campaigns that included the tidbit about Google being able to pinpoint the exact search queries that members of some GRU unit (Fancy Bear, maybe? idk) made.
Re:Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person by jeremyjh on Thursday December 20, 2018 @07:14PM (#18730446)
> There is no practical way of knowing when Alexa has heard a keyword and recorded content around it.

This is incorrect. If you want to know what your device has heard and processed (or failed to understand), you can look at the Alexa app on your phone. It will tell you what it thought you asked for and what it told you or played for you, and you can replay the recording of your voice request.