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Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by ___alt on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:25AM (#18725643)
It was unclear to users what they consented to when they signed in. Because Facebook doesn't give a damn about proper consent. The fact that Facebook botched it up is not less problematic than Facebook selling data because the outcome for users is more or less the same.

Turns out "move fast and break things" is a shitty policy when it comes to privacy concerns.

Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by ilovecaching on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:22AM (#18726215)
>The fact that Facebook botched it up is not less problematic than Facebook selling data because the outcome for users is more or less the same.

Users signed in to services they already had accounts with, and therefore trusted, knowing they were enabling features they wanted to use with their data. These services were hand selected big name companies. This is a far cry from selling data to the highest bidder for profit.

Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by razakel on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:30AM (#18725690)
>It was unclear to users what they consented to when they signed in.

I highly doubt anyone would consent to allowing third party companies to read their private messages if that was actually made clear to them.

Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by mikeash on Thursday December 20, 2018 @02:45PM (#18728420)
I think this might be part of the problem. The idea of handing over your private messages to some random company is so absurd that the average person probably assumes that it couldn’t possibly be what they’re asking for. You’ll have to make the permission prompt really explicit to overcome that.
Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by ikeboy on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:49AM (#18725875)
Plenty of people installed Facebook apps that required permission to read all text messages
Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by zyx321 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:13PM (#18726779)
Yes, but that doesn't mean that they consent to Facebook using that data. Whatsapp for example asks "read SMS" permission to verify your phone number. It also requires access to your contact list or else everyone's name will be shown as a phone number.

The average user seems to assume that the information is used to provide the service and nothing more. The last person I asked if they were worried about how much information FB has about them replied something among the lines of "Yes, but it's only things that I deliberately chose to share." (paraphrased)

Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by bg4 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:28AM (#18725675)
Sounds like we need another Facebook apology tour.
Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by kumarharsh on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:08AM (#18726074)
This strongly reminds me of that South Park episode which had the BP Oil CEO apologizing for fucking up. Over and over again.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WTsDqIcpHUc

Re:Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg by elliekelly on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:59AM (#18725989)
"We're sorry you misunderstood how we operate." - Zuckerberg