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Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by devereaux on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:28AM (#18722716)
Considering the startup ecosystem in Canada, I fear much of that talent will be wasted.

We really need to fix immigration laws to make recruiting foreign IT professionals easier. The H1B system and the years of waiting is a disgrace.

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by Bombthecat on Thursday December 20, 2018 @02:15AM (#18723060)
Germany just opened up (alot) you just need to find a job and can you can stay. (in IT not that hard right now)
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by konschubert on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:25AM (#18723303)
Oh, can you point me to more information about this?
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by Bombthecat on Thursday December 20, 2018 @03:51AM (#18723403)
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by brianwawok on Thursday December 20, 2018 @12:46AM (#18722769)
H1Bs don’t work at startups. They work at BigCo doing Boring Stuff.
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by wenc on Thursday December 20, 2018 @01:18AM (#18722873)
The H-1B is a specialty occupation visa that spans more occupations than most people are aware.

Most people associate it with IT workers, but many accountants, research scientists, engineers, and other professionals also hold H-1Bs. Where I work, it is the latter categories of professionals that dominate. Many of them have degrees from schools (e.g. MIT, CMU, etc.) much better than schools most of us went to.

And yes, some of them work at startups. They usually start out with an OPT after graduating and then convert to an H-1B.

IT worker and H-1B are not synonymous -- the former is a subset of the latter. It's unfortunate that the latter is used as shorthand for the former, and the two categories are conflated.

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by purple_ducks on Thursday December 20, 2018 @01:29PM (#18727591)
> Many of them have degrees from schools (e.g. MIT, CMU, etc.) much better than schools most of us went to.

Explain to me how a degree from schools "much better than schools most of us went to" indicates the person is more competent or intelligent than anyone else? "better" should be subbed out for "prestigious".

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by echevil on Thursday December 20, 2018 @01:53AM (#18722992)
Well, one of the main reasons that they don't work at startups is that they need stability because of the broken immigration process. Similar to Indians, most Chinese tech workers here choose to join big companies, but Chinese tech workers in China are creating tons of startups.
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by zaptheimpaler on Thursday December 20, 2018 @02:10AM (#18723041)
I worked almost exclusively at startups under an H1B in SV and know many many others. A company pays something like $5K for the legal services and fees to hire an H1B, and under normal political circumstances they receive the initial docs that lets the employee start working in 2-4 weeks. There is really no reason H1Bs wouldn't work at startups (and they do)
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by gumby on Thursday December 20, 2018 @02:43AM (#18723153)
I have hired plenty of h1bs at various startups I’ve worked on. It’s a lot more expensive and time considering than hiring someone local but sometimes you have no choice, either because they have some special skill or because you’ve exhausted all alternatives.
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by jamisteven on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:50AM (#18723625)
Or because you dont have the budget to pay the required salary demanded by native workers with that skillset.
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by mavelikara on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:47AM (#18723847)
Not OP, but hiring manager at a SV startup. For all positions we interview for, we get applications from citizens, GC holders, and H-1Bs. We hire the best candidate from among the applicants applied for that position.

Two engineers started this Monday - an iOS specialist, and an Operations engineer. One is a citizen, and one is on H-1B. We pay both engineers according to the firm's salary bands for those respective positions.

> Or because you dont have the budget to pay the required salary demanded by native workers with that skillset.

So what you insinuate is possible, but not always the case.

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by gumby on Thursday December 20, 2018 @06:35AM (#18724045)
You have to demonstrate that you’re paying the foreigner at least as much as you’d pay a us person and file it with the government. And advertisenthe job and interview anyone who responds (wenof course have been interviewing already and have considered the horrible hassles ofnthe h1 only because that’s been unsuccessful). And wait for the paperwork to go through.

Believe me it’s an expensive last resort.

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by AYBABTME on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:19AM (#18723751)
You've got an axe to grind? Everyone I know who works on an H1B makes as much, if not more, money than "native workers".
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by mavelikara on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:50AM (#18723867)
Most engineers - H-1Bs, GC holders and citizens - don't work at startups; they work at BigCo doing Boring Stuff.

If you go to any startup event in the Bay Area, you will see plenty of engineers on H-1Bs. Or browse one of the "Who's Hiring" threads here to notice that many startups provide for H-1B transfers.

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by kerneltime on Thursday December 20, 2018 @01:23AM (#18722888)
Really.. tell me more! Startups don’t hire thousands and do not show up any Radars.. I know at least a few startups founded by folks needing H1B and know many more who work for startups..
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by throwawaymjabba on Thursday December 20, 2018 @02:07AM (#18723028)
I had quite a few of my Indian friends who did MS in US, joined an Indian company, and jumped ship to start ups within 1-2 years.
Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by apercu on Thursday December 20, 2018 @09:33AM (#18725162)
> Considering the startup ecosystem in Canada, I fear much of that talent will be wasted.

Can you expand on this thought?

Re:Indian technology talent is flocking to Canada by taobility on Thursday December 20, 2018 @01:08PM (#18727343)
Interesting, why USA needs to recruiting foreign IT professionals easier? Why the other countries don't have such concern? The right way shouldn't be improve the STEM education to provide more qualify new graduates?