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Re:Go Modules in 2019 by Felz on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:05PM (#18718321)
Why not have if/else be an expression in the first place, like Kotlin?

  n = if(expr) trueVal else falseVal
No need to learn a separate ternary operator.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by yashap on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @03:26PM (#18719219)
Quite a few languages do if expressions, and IMO they’re great. Simple syntax, readable and powerful. It’s crazy to me that any new language wouldn’t have them.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by candiodari on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @09:02PM (#18721927)
The argument specified in the docs is "a language needs only one conditional flow construct" (in a language, of course, that has half a dozen conditional flow constructs ...)

The more palatable argument that people who try to cover for ... seems to be that when people nest if expressions, it becomes a mess. I'm glad these people exist.

The real reason is found here: http://dtrace.org/blogs/wesolows/2014/12/29/golang-is-trash/

(or if you prefer, in the compiler's source itself. It doesn't take a compiler expert to realize it's not very clean code. Even violates the go style, and the C one before that was just horrendous)

The TLDR is that Go's compiler is a "fisher-price my first compiler" and really shows that the authors simply barely knew how to get a compiler working in the first place. That they were not ready to go into a rational discussion on programming language and type theory ... is not something anyone should be surprised about.

That they avoid the arguments by dismissing the people making them in such a condescending way is ... well, there's not really anything good to say about that.

Re:Go Modules in 2019 by 4ad on Thursday December 20, 2018 @07:07AM (#18724190)
Ken Thompson has been writing compilers for over 50 years now. If you believe that Ken "barely knew how to get a compiler working in the first place", we have nothing to talk about, as you obviously made up your mind already.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by candiodari on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:00AM (#18726003)
Then read the source for the compiler yourself. Tell me I'm wrong.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by 4ad on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:22AM (#18726211)
Not only I have read it, I have written several compiler targets for it. You are wrong. It's by far the easiest compiler I have worked with.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by iainmerrick on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @03:50PM (#18719458)
Because the designers of Kotlin are more open to experimentation and new ideas.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by erik_seaberg on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @09:09PM (#18721957)

  (setq n (cond
    (expr trueVal)
    (t falseVal)))
This particular idea dates back to at least 1965.
Re:Go Modules in 2019 by iainmerrick on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:13AM (#18723471)
Er, yes, I should say “new ideas about which features are worth stealing from Lisp” :)