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Re:With trust destroyed, Facebook is haunted by old data deals by TeMPOraL on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @11:19AM (#18716687)
> It's insane that people spend time and energy on keeping secrets from their relatives and friends (which everyone does) and yet can't see that a third party that actively seeks your information is more likely to cause you harm than people you know. This is a trivial deduction, yet so many people can't comprehend it.

I think this deduction is actually wrong. Ask yourself why you hide some things from your relatives and friends. Could it be because quite a lot of people are really bigoted, and the immediate social costs of them learning more about you would be dire? Whereas data collection currently has only one visible consequence on the individual level: what kind of ads & spam you get, and how much. People correctly recognize this as mostly harmless.

People do react to things that affect them directly. In my country it is widely known that people trying to cheat our IRS or social insurance got busted over Facebook photos, so they know not to present a lifestyle that's different than the one they report to the government. (E.g. if you're consistently reporting low income, don't post photos of your two limos. If you're on a (paid by social insurance) medical leave that restricts you to bed, you'd better not get tagged on a photo placing you in a restaurant.)

EDIT: I don't mean to imply that the government has a backdoor access to this data; it's just there were cases of people dumb enough to share incriminating evidence of fraud that found its way to government investigators, by e.g. being posted publicly.

Re:With trust destroyed, Facebook is haunted by old data deals by rchaud on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:42PM (#18717539)
Customizing the ads and spam is the first step, because that's what technologically feasible and makes business sense. Before long, they'll start "customizing" your search results even when you're not logged in, because your IP and search history gives the gatekeeper enough to decide what you should and shouldn't see.

Net Neutrality in the US was obviously gamed in favour of ISPs, telecoms and large corporations, and the population didn't lift a finger behind posting sanctimoniously on Reddit/HN, and arguing with each other about the semantics of free/un-free markets.

Re:With trust destroyed, Facebook is haunted by old data deals by darkerside on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @11:23AM (#18716724)
Wow! Can I ask what country you live in?

There are definitely some parallels here to the way people now often friend their bosses on Facebook, leading to uncomfortable knowledge sharing.

Re:With trust destroyed, Facebook is haunted by old data deals by TeMPOraL on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @11:24AM (#18716733)
Poland.
Re:With trust destroyed, Facebook is haunted by old data deals by gambler on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:06PM (#18718329)
>Whereas data collection currently has only one visible consequence on the individual level: what kind of ads & spam you get, and how much.

The key words are "visible" and "currently". There are less visible consequences like identity theft, scams and all kinds of sneaky profiling that affect you without your knowledge. And no one really knows how this data will be used in the future.