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Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by btilly on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @06:23PM (#18711536)
The problem is this, who is seen as controlling the standard?

Perception is reality here.

Right now people get updates to Chrome and ChromeOS from Google. Microsoft is free to fork it. But if Microsoft goes one way and Google another, Google's version is what gets used. And everyone knows it. So anyone who wants to influence the direction of Chromium will talk to Google. Anyone who wants an idea of what is coming, will ask Google. Microsoft is a distinctly second class citizen.

Doubly so since Microsoft's last two attempts at a browser (IE and Edge) are now failed also-rans. If it attempts to fork Chromium, nobody is going to believe that their third try will win.

In its younger days, Microsoft fought hard to avoid being in such positions. For a flavor, read http://gunkies.org/wiki/Gordon_Letwin_OS/2_usenet_post to see how they thought about ownership of standards. But Microsoft has decided to cede this particular battle. At least for now.

Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by jeromebaek on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @06:35PM (#18711608)
Interesting bit of history. Thanks for this article. I'm curious, though, how the fact that Chromium is open-source will change this dynamic, because the ethos of open source seems directly against the idea of Google abusing their control over Chromium.
Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by mulmen on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @08:08PM (#18712149)
Firefox is Open source. Does Mozilla control what standards get adopted on the most used platforms? Or which ones influence your search ranking and traffic?

No, because Mozilla don't own them, Google does.

The problem is not Google having a browser, open or closed. The problem is all the influence Google has elsewhere.

Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by btilly on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @06:56PM (#18711758)
What is abuse?

Do you mean rolling a new protocol in Chrome without warning that magically makes Google faster because they rolled it out on their end as well? This already happened with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY.

As long as what they do is technically good and not too heavy-handed, developers won't resist. In fact it is likely to be welcomed. But the effect will constantly leave Google a half-step ahead of everyone else on the upgrade train. After all it isn't hurting developers, it is just leaving Google with a slightly better competitive edge.

Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by myrryr on Thursday December 20, 2018 @05:05AM (#18723699)
Pretty much this, technically good and not too heavy-handed is a lot better than we are used to from anyone else.
Re:Google isn’t the company that we should have handed the W... by walterbell on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @06:40PM (#18711639)
How about removing URLs in favor of legal names for website publishers (demo given by Google earlier this year)?

Where can users go if they still want YouTube to work well?