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Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by Tepix on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @04:14PM (#18710638)
What would your reaction be if you spent time, work and money trying to help wiht a rescue, it doesn‘t work out and then this guy tells you to shove your rescue sub up your ass (that‘s what he literally said!)?
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by andyburke on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:10PM (#18711064)
Not calling them a pedophile?

Additionally, what kind of hubris is it to imagine you can help with a rescue you know little to nothing about, especially in a way that could be viewed as a PR stunt for one of your companies?

The proper response would have been for Elon to say: 'We were only trying to help. I am glad everyone got out ok, and respect what the divers did to make that happen. Perhaps what we built could be used in future situations and we are prepared to work with rescue organizations to see if that is feasible.'

If he had said that, everyone would have cheered him. Instead, he really began his slide off the cliff. Happily, he seems to have calmed down lately. At least, I haven't seen any serious missteps in the last few weeks.

Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by camjohnson26 on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @06:18PM (#18711517)
If EMTs are treating a person who's severely bleeding and I come up and try to help I'm just going to get in the way. Musk should have let the professionals do their job. The sub was not remotely workable since it was too rigid for the cave's narrow passages, and Musk should have let it go.
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by leggomylibro on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:09PM (#18711052)
One life lesson that I wish I'd learned earlier: people who didn't ask for your help don't owe you anything. It is often presumptuous and unhelpful to assume that you know what is best.
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by ss2003 on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:06PM (#18711030)
The sun was a stupid idea that would have never worked. A simple fuck off would have so much better than calling him apedo.
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by nradov on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:09PM (#18711058)
My reaction would be to show some respect and humility when actual cave diving experts told me that I was on the wrong track.
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by marvin on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:53PM (#18711365)
Again, Musk's reaction to being told to shove the sub up his ass by this guy was over-the-top. I am _obviously_ not defending unfounded accusations of paedophilia.

But one of the two lead British divers did tell SpaceX in an e-mail to keep working on the sub, in case other plans to safely extract the youngest kid failed. There is an image of this e-mail interaction somewhere. So one of the world's most experienced cave divers had indeed given the team the thumbs-up; the guy telling Musk to shove the machine up his ass was thankfully not representing the rescue leadership.

Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by nradov on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @07:44PM (#18712014)
There was apparently some sort of misunderstanding at the time. It would have been completely impossible for any sort of rigid submarine to fit through the cave restrictions. It was a total waste of effort.