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Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by huffmsa on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:33PM (#18709159)
No one ever gets a single "peanut". So unless you mush mouth the "S", the reasonable expectation for both your cohabitator and the robot is to bring peanuts and butter.

A better question is "coconut, milk" versus "coconut milk".

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by grecy on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:36PM (#18709204)
> A better question is "coconut, milk" versus "coconut milk".

Sure, but if you were dictating to a human that would still be an easy one for them to get wrong, depending on how long you paused.

I find this interesting with phone numbers. In some countries you hear people say "thirty three sixty two" and they mean 303602

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @07:14PM (#18711846)
"Coconut" is still an anomalous grocery item. You'd want one of

- a coconut

- [number] coconuts

- shredded coconut

"Coconut" is best matched to that last option, but it's not a natural word choice. (Although it is a natural list entry... do people think of themselves as dictating to Alexa, or as writing the list themselves while happening to use their voice?)

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by oralty on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @08:25PM (#18712255)
If i'm making a list as a reminder to actually pick up items.. coconut will suffice.
Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @10:09PM (#18712698)
Yes, I agree. If you're writing a list for yourself, a bare "coconut" is a typical entry. But if you're dictating a shopping list to someone else, you're quite unlikely to say "coconut" because that isn't grammatical.

So it turns into a question of how people think about dictating to Alexa.

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by p1necone on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @08:41PM (#18712340)
This is a good point - in reality Alexa doesn't really have to do a great job transcribing at all if it's just constructing a list as a reminder for you later.

If this is a precursor to being able to quickly voice order stuff off amazon to be delivered though it's a different story.

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by whoopdedo on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @08:21PM (#18712237)
The one I thought of was "peanut butter M&Ms"
Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by viksit on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @03:05PM (#18710044)
This is a very interesting observation. The whole point of speech to text models being biased towards the US in terms of training data and innovation is valid not only across the larger things (gender/race/religion) but just small things like this. And these are likely to cause daily problems.
Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by huffmsa on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:45PM (#18709292)
And that's what makes it interesting. Peanut butter versus peanuts, butter is easy. No one gets a single peanut.

As for the phone number, that's why anyone in a serious occupation (aviation, military, etc) treat each digit as is stand-alone.

Three-zero-three-six-zero-two.

Re:How Alexa knows “peanut butter” is one shopping-list item... by coldtea on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:10PM (#18711066)
>No one gets a single peanut

You'd be surprised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPFQm9PQ_M