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Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by gumby on Sunday December 16, 2018 @04:04PM (#18695228)
Consider not going on a modern airliner. Every commercial passenger jet since the A340 has been fly-by-wire.

(military jets have been so longer).

Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by jolmg on Sunday December 16, 2018 @04:12PM (#18695263)
But you have more time to react on a plane and switch to manual override. It's not like people fly with just a few meters distance to other airplanes. There's also a good distance to the only other thing you can crash into, the ground, as opposed to driving between walls or with a cliff to one side.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by hexane360 on Sunday December 16, 2018 @05:00PM (#18695529)
OP said "fly by wire", meaning there's no non electronic systems to fall back on. If the electronics fail there's no "manual override".
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by vvillena on Sunday December 16, 2018 @06:09PM (#18695825)
Of course there's a fallback. If the fly-by-wire system fails, there's another whole fly-by-wire system ready to take over. Usually this is safer than the old redundant hydraulics systems where all the lines ran close together, making them vulnerable to localized impact damage and fire.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by hexane360 on Thursday December 27, 2018 @01:35AM (#18767847)
I specifically said "non-electronic" fallback.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by Too on Monday December 17, 2018 @03:21PM (#18701829)
Reliably implementing a few control loops and exhaustively testing all possible input/outputs for bugs - difficult but manageable.

Reliably implementing image recognition from multiple cameras and AI that should respond to ever changing weather, inconsistent roads, signs, maps and other human drivers erratic behaviour within milliseconds - Not even in the same league.

Not saying aircrafts are simple but self driving is just orders of magnitude more complex. Otherwise we would have seen them on the roads already.

Aircrafts also have much stricter maintenance schedules, failure investigations and completely different economic, media and moral incentives.

Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by jhomedall on Monday December 17, 2018 @09:34AM (#18699138)
Aircraft autopilots and fly-by-wire systems are vastly more simple than self-driving cars.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by blattimwind on Sunday December 16, 2018 @05:50PM (#18695747)
Depending on what fails how in a car, you may have less than a second to recover.

Apart from being hit with a high-explosive anti-air missile, I can't think of any failure mode in a plane that has such a narrow recovery window.

Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by bdavis__ on Sunday December 16, 2018 @04:17PM (#18695293)
737 Looks like cables, air, and hydraulics to me.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by gumby on Sunday December 16, 2018 @04:42PM (#18695450)
737 is a much older aircraft. The A320 and subsequent Airbus jets and Boeing jets since 777 have been electronic.
Re:Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick? by labcomputer on Monday December 17, 2018 @11:16AM (#18699840)
The Embraer ERJ series does not have fly-by-wire, just to name one. So the assertion that every "Every commercial passenger jet since the A340 has been fly-by-wire" is simply false.