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Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by ourmandave on Friday December 14, 2018 @03:49PM (#18684592)
Need an abortion? book a flight, we require a trans-vaginal ultrasound and a waiting period.

There's a coalition in my state that believes all life is sacred and abortion should be illegal even in cases of incest and rape. God's will and so forth...

Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by war1025 on Friday December 14, 2018 @04:34PM (#18685032)
It's a shame how much abortion gets pushed as a wedge issue. It's great at riling people up and getting them to cluster into their particular camps, but at that point people who would otherwise be able to agree on other issues and actually make progress decide to just not talk to each other.
Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by ep103 on Friday December 14, 2018 @04:51PM (#18685167)
abortion and gun control.

We can limit the amount of abortion that occurs, without banning abortion (sex education, birth control, health insurance, family planning, adoption center funding, etc).

And we can limit the negative impacts of gun ownership on society, without gun bans (NICB, mental health funding, red flag laws, standardized licensing, increased funding for already existing laws, significantly increased police accountability, etc) .

But no one wants to talk about these things. Instead, we keep talking about them as wedge issues. Ban Abortion / Abortion is a right. Ban X,Y,Z Guns / Gun Ownership is a right.

If you want a jolly good time, find someone who is adamant on one of those issues, have them give an explanation for a while, then see how far you can get in the other issue before they realize they're using all the same arguments but from the opposite viewpoint.

Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by addicted on Saturday December 15, 2018 @01:11AM (#18687315)
I’m sorry, but the left has not only talked about all these things, but they’ve actually pushed legislation for this.

The idea that the US left does not even want to talk about sex Ed, birth control, health insurance...mental health funding, funding research on the effects of guns, licensing, etc... is so out of whack from reality.

You are basically taking what every one on the US left (almost no one in any sort of governmental power on the US left has proposed a gun ban) is pushing for and complaining that no one wants to talk about it.

It’s remarkable how entrenched the idea that the only problem is that both sides are equally wrong is in the US.

Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by masonic on Saturday December 15, 2018 @05:43AM (#18687914)

  almost no one in any sort of governmental power on the US left has proposed a gun ban
Senator Feinstein (D-CA) advocated for a total gun ban right on "60 Minutes".
Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by masonic on Saturday December 15, 2018 @07:54PM (#18691165)
Sigh. For the skeptical downvoters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4AcjyuV38

Re:Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy by kinsho on Monday December 24, 2018 @03:44PM (#18754179)
That's for assault weaponry.