Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by sgustard on Thursday December 13, 2018 @06:30PM
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While visiting, am I free to loudly denounce the government?
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Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by sonnyblarney on Thursday December 13, 2018 @08:54PM
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No, but oddly, you can do almost anything else. Most activity in China does not feel as though it's too intruded upon by the gov.. If you don't run afoul of the party apparatus, it's not unlike many other places. I'm not justifying anything other than to say it's not a dystopia for most.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by sgustard on Saturday December 15, 2018 @12:01AM
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"Not dystopian except for the thought police" doesn't cut it for me.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by crimsonalucard on Thursday December 13, 2018 @10:23PM
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This is exactly what I'm saying. It's like when you walk into your work office. Not smart to talk shit about your job in the office. China is not America, but it's not dystopia either.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by ardy42 on Thursday December 13, 2018 @11:39PM
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> but it's not dystopia either.
A dystopia doesn't have to be as all-permeating and starkly obvious as the one depicted in 1984 to be a dystopia.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by crimsonalucard on Thursday December 13, 2018 @07:46PM
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No you're not. Snowden wasn't allowed to denounce the government either.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by EdwardDiego on Thursday December 13, 2018 @09:19PM
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He was, just not with a bunch of classified documents in hand.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by crimsonalucard on Thursday December 13, 2018 @10:21PM
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Those classified documents showed how the government was spying on their own citizens and breaking the law. He was whistleblowing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/07/edward-snowden...
He is literally not allowed to denounce the government for breaking their own laws.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by EdwardDiego on Thursday December 13, 2018 @10:35PM
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That's what classifying documents is for - to keep them secret. He didn't get in trouble for "denouncing the government", he got in trouble for publishing classified documents.
I agree with what Snowden did, and respect him for having the courage to do so, but I'm not sure if you're trying to demonise the US government or legitimise the Chinese one by claiming the prosecuting someone for publishing classified documents is equivalent to prosecuting someone for disagreeing with the ruling party.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by dorgo on Friday December 14, 2018 @04:36AM
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How convinient. If I had broken the law I would also clasify all documents which could prove it.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri...
by crimsonalucard on Friday December 14, 2018 @09:20PM
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If you sign an NDA with a company then violate that NDA by whistleblowing, you are protected under US law. Snowden has no such protection.