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Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by rachelbythebay on Thursday December 06, 2018 @04:29PM (#18622444)
Google's guidance for this stuff was always in the form of "don't leave a trail", not "don't do it in the first place".

Sketchy stuff comes up on a list? "Let's take it offline", not "no, stop this now".

That kind of thing. It was systemic.

Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by arthurcolle on Thursday December 06, 2018 @10:14PM (#18624851)
This verbiage is common at most large multinats, from my own experience and from what's been relayed to me by peers.
Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by WalterGR on Friday December 07, 2018 @12:07AM (#18625291)
I never heard it at Microsoft, nor was there training about avoiding paper trails.
Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by freeone3000 on Friday December 07, 2018 @04:09AM (#18626140)
I was inducted within the last three years, and I remember specific recommendations by CELA to have a non-content-based email deletion policy and to never insinuate anticompetitive behavior in an email or on teams.

The implication was "don't do anticompetitive behavior, we don't need to", but the warnings were given.

Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by nostrademons on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:50AM (#18625847)
Depends who you were discussing it with. In general, if it was a manager, executive, or lawyer hired post-IPO, it'd be "Let's take this offline." Pre-IPO engineer, SRE, or UX designer of any tenure and it'd be "We shouldn't be doing this."
Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by nubbins on Friday December 07, 2018 @12:49AM (#18625429)
What they probably don’t realize is the record of saying “lets take it off line” ie requesting change in communication media is suspicious in itself and much easier for humans or algorithms to find in discovery than whatever complicated scheme they were going to discuss that wouldn’t give good target keywords.
Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by skybrian on Friday December 07, 2018 @01:17AM (#18625544)
I don't know, it seems like it's probably better to take it offline than to have a whole argument about something that shouldn't be talked about in the first place. If you keep talking, they are just going to put more dubious speculation on the record.

Shutting this down is just good management.

Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by radicaldreamer on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:17AM (#18625727)
A lot of laws are written so that you have to prove intent (for good reason) and often let’s take this offline doesn’t satisfy that requirement. There are plenty of reasons to discuss something in another forum without any intent to break any laws.
Re:Facebook accused of striking 'secret deals over user data' by hnuser1234 on Friday December 07, 2018 @05:13AM (#18626409)
A growing company is mutually exclusive with a company that tells their employees to "not create things that will crush or destroy competitors in the first place."