Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by ksec on Thursday December 06, 2018 @03:41PM
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But even 1000 cycles... assuming 0.5 cycles per day gives you ~6 years life span? Sounds a little too low.
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Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by manicdee on Thursday December 06, 2018 @08:30PM
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3000 cycles “lifespan” but most of the degradation happens in the first couple of years with the rate of degradation about 3% a year, capacity still remains and the product will still have significant capacity in 20 years.
As opposed to say a synchronous converter which requires annual downtime and continual replacement of parts, and (being limited by inertia) can’t provide the same stability and support that a battery can.
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by Retric on Thursday December 06, 2018 @05:01PM
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The payback period is ~18 months so lasting less than 10 years is mostly irrelevant.
On top of that these systems are still useful well below their original capacity, so they can rather than a sudden huge bill you simply add more capacity as the original battery’s degrade in a fairly predictable fashion. Over time you end up with a much smaller annual investment than your saving every year.
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by agumonkey on Thursday December 06, 2018 @05:11PM
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payback is not the goal though, it's about avoiding sucking earth resources
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by tankenmate on Thursday December 06, 2018 @05:21PM
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You can always recycle the batteries and use it to create new batteries.
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by adrianN on Friday December 07, 2018 @12:34AM
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Recycling uses resources too.
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by Retric on Friday December 07, 2018 @04:05AM
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But grid batteries directly save resources, in this case money saved is a good proxy for less resources used.
Re:Tesla's giant battery saved $40M during its first year, r...
by dsfyu404ed on Friday December 07, 2018 @08:13AM
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Payback is a prerequisite to people to actually buying your less earth sucking technology so while it might not be the end goal it's a goal nonetheless.