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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by trhway on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @02:55PM (#18611832)
Me and some other teammates switched our dev machines from SSD to HDD arrays. 2-3 years of heavy usage - huge C++ - and SSD start silently fail in various ways - from slow down at 60-70% capacity to final outright failure even to read from. Note: the hardware is top line enterprise, pretty expensive. The perf difference between sdd and hdd is imperceptible for our use case as we are cores hungry and have enough RAM.
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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by wtallis on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @05:28PM (#18613331)
By "dev machines" do you mean workstations or CI servers? There's no way you could have been burning out top of the line enterprise SSDs in 2-3 years with developer workstation usage patterns.

(I could maybe believe that you ran into trouble if you used low-end enterprise SSDs that also force themselves to go read-only as soon as the warrantied write endurance is exhausted, rather than continuing until the flash itself is actually starting to fail.)

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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by trhway on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @05:46PM (#18613494)
It is dev workstations.

>top of the line enterprise SSDs

i wasn't precise here. It isn't top of the line enterprise SSDs (like the ones you'd use for databases and which cost accordingly). I meant the top-tier corporate enterprise vendor with top-tier hardware in the corresponding categories ( we're a BigCo ).

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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by wtallis on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @05:57PM (#18613600)
> I meant the top-tier corporate enterprise vendor with top-tier hardware in the corresponding categories ( we're a BigCo ).

So what you're probably getting is ordinary cheap consumer-grade SSDs, but perhaps with encryption capabilities actually turned on. I'd be surprised if you were getting something like the Samsung 850 PRO without specifically ordering premium SSDs.

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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by trhway on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @06:24PM (#18613796)
>So what you're probably getting is ordinary cheap consumer-grade SSDs, but perhaps with encryption capabilities actually turned on. I'd be surprised if you were getting something like the Samsung 850 PRO without specifically ordering premium SSDs.

we've got various models through the years, yet still a notch higher - the 850 PRO has TBW at 300x-500x capacity where is the ones we've been getting got TBW around 1000x, and i think the earlier hardware was even close to 2000-3000x.

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Re:Seagate Announces 16TB HDD by sigi45 on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @05:37PM (#18613405)
oO. I think that is very strange.
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