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Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by CPLX on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @10:45AM (#18609252)
That's a statement that requires evidence and proof.

Market fundamentalists are so used to advancing arguments like this without being challenged that they have become almost completely divorced from the scientific method entirely.

Maybe being forced to share this kind of proprietary data, in this specific type of circumstance, will actually promote a more diverse marketplace with higher innovation. Maybe it won't.

Either way you don't just get to assert it.

Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by ryanwaggoner on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:13AM (#18609546)
You're not a "fundamentalist" because you mention the fundamentals of a field of study. It's impossible to have a discussion about anything if some things are not taken as axiomatic.

And given that the person you're responding to is stating something that most economists would agree with, I think the impetus is on you to tear it down with "the scientific method" if you think the prevailing wisdom is wrong.

TLDR: don't provide proof for flat-earthers.

Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by CPLX on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @12:20PM (#18610304)
I have a degree in economics and I disagree with it.

If you were in fact an economist yourself, perhaps you would have recognized market fundamentalism as a term with a specific meaning, often used by economists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_fundamentalism

Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by ryanwaggoner on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @12:47PM (#18610577)
That's not a term of art in economics.
Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by ionised on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:30AM (#18609753)
No, you're a fundamentalist if you stick to an ideology (e.g. trickle-down) in spite of all evidence suggesting it is highly flawed.

> It's impossible to have a discussion about anything if some things are not taken as axiomatic.

You mean you personally find it impossible to have a discussion with someone who disagrees with you on the axioms of economics because it means you can't frame the argument in your own terms, which would be that there is no alternative to what you are espousing.

Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by ryanwaggoner on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @11:42AM (#18609875)
You don't actually know my views or what I'd espouse, so I'm curious about your hostility here :)

My only point was that you may have better success railing against the conventional wisdom by providing an actual argument that it's wrong, not by ranting and raving about the existence of prevailing wisdom itself, and demanding that everyone provide a detailed proof every time they reference it.

You should check out the works of Milton Friedman, you might find them interesting!

Re:Facebook's seized files published by MPs by ionised on Thursday December 06, 2018 @09:29AM (#18618281)
I'm very aware of Friedman's work and I think it's time we all stopped listening to the words of that fascist-apologist hack.