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Re:Remind HN: Vote by tjogin on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @08:01AM (#1860054)
I'm not against compulsory voting, but I'd just like to add that I don't think it's necessary in order to get a good voter turnout. We have voluntary voting in Sweden, and yet we get about 86% turnout.

In the US, there are a number of problems with the voting procedure, too many to count really, I think facing and addressing those issues would be far better than making voting compulsory.

Re:Remind HN: Vote by cletus on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @08:58AM (#1860217)
A few days ago there was a post on HN about how economists solved the problem of having prisoners live that were shipped from the UK to Australia 200 years ago: by giving the right incentive (paying for live prisoners at the other end and not just how many you load on in England).

When voting is voluntary, certain groups are incentivized to encourage or discourage other groups from voting. This manifests itself as bribery, legitimate "get out the vote" efforts, making the process of voting difficult and so on.

Basically you've created an incentive for such practices by making voting voluntary. All of that goes away when voting is compulsory.

I'm reminded of the Spce Shuttle Challenger disaster in 2003. I saw a TV show about the investigation into that. After launch there was concern about the visible debris coming off the shuttle. The investigation afterwards showed that there was significant resistance within NASA to investigating that prior to re-entry. Certain people wanted to use satellite imagery to see if there was any damage to the shuttle. Other groups resisted.

The reason this was contentious was that such practices weren't required. The solution? The investigation resulted in NASA instituting a policy requiring such imagery be taken of all shuttle flights.

Once something is mandatory, all sorts of incentives (and the problems they create) simply go away.

Re:Remind HN: Vote by dctoedt on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @10:57AM (#1860638)
Nit: Space Shuttle Challenger was in 1986; Columbia was 2003.
Re:Remind HN: Vote by aralib on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @03:06PM (#1861833)
hm.. "the problem of having prisoners live" doesn't sound right.
Re:Remind HN: Vote by riffic on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @08:35AM (#1860144)
this is by design.. obfuscate the process to discourage participation.
Re:Remind HN: Vote by devmonk on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @08:39AM (#1860160)
I think it is just incompetence. The more you spend time with government, the more you see that, even though we'd imagine they have things under control, they really don't.
Re:Remind HN: Vote by smokey_the_bear on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @09:42PM (#1863242)
I'm 28 and voting is important to me, but I've missed voting in three November elections because I didn't register in time. I've lived at different addresses every single year. The system is set up to dissuade renters from voting. Except in the few states that allow election day registration.