Re:Man, 69, loses legal battle against temporal reality in e...
by happytoexplain on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:29PM
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It's my (extremely outside) understanding that the concepts of physical/genetic/choose-something-objective gender are not what people mean in these conversations - nor are they referring to the subjective identity of what kinds of people one feels sexually attracted to. They are referring to a third thing, also subjective, best described as "what gender you feel like", which is very much like how old or young you feel, except much more closely related to one's identity (I "feel" young, which is great, but I also "feel" male, which is more than great - it's critically important to my self identity). So, both of these things (age and gender) have subjective and objectives measures - the difference is that "years old", which term the law uses, is patently objective both legally and linguistically, whereas on the other hand "male/female/etc", which terms the law also uses, is less objective linguistically (as described above), and therefore there is at least one basis on which you could argue for a legal change of gender - a basis that does not exist for a change-of-age argument.
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Re:Man, 69, loses legal battle against temporal reality in e...
by knicholes on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:40PM
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I've always wondered how someone knows how a man feels or how a woman feels. All I know is how I feel. How am I to determine that the way I feel is the way everyone who identifies as women feel, or the way everyone who identifies as men feel? Certainly there's a continuum where rarely do two individuals feel exactly the same.
Re:Man, 69, loses legal battle against temporal reality in e...
by war1025 on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:37PM
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As much as anything, this comes down to societal gender roles and a desire not to conform with the ones you've been assigned. In a different culture, it could simply come down to "piss off and I'll do what I want", but we live in a time and place where labels very much matter to people, and they want to be able to pick labels that mean what they would like.