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Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by wongarsu on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:45AM (#18588287)
Bitcoin's price drop might look bad enought to warrant sensational articles, but if you take any bitcoin price chart over the last years (like [1]) and switch it to logarithmic price, it doesn't appear exceptional. The same thing happened in 2013.

1: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#charts

Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by xyzzyz on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:48AM (#18588307)
If you take any time series asset of the price of any asset, and switch it to logarithmic, none of the drops will appear exceptional either. That’s what logarithmic scale does.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by wongarsu on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:02AM (#18588407)
If you assume something grows exponentially (which is roughly how bitcoin behaves), then looking at a linear chart doesn't lead to useful conclusions.

Alternatively you can look at [1] which uses linear scale, but as you look at different parts of the timeline it rescales the chart. Sure, the recent drop looks dramatic. But it looks less dramatic than when in 2011 the price rose from $0.80 all the way to $30 and fell back to $2.20. Or the 2013 event where the price rose from $15 to $100 to $1000 in the span of a few months, only to crash down to a devastating $230.

1: https://99bitcoins.com/price-chart-history/

Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by ucha on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:57AM (#18588378)
That's plain false.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by paulpauper on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:15AM (#18588496)
log charts are misleading because by changing the base and the vertical axis you can make a huge decline look like a blip. but seeing 80% of your money gone is anything but a blip. also there is no guarantee bitcoin will continue to have exponential returns.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by wongarsu on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:20AM (#18588527)
> also there is no guarantee bitcoin will continue to have exponential returns

which is true of any investment vehicle. You can only look at past performance and future market factors to make predictions, but even with the safest investment methods there is no guarantee.

Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by paulpauper on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:49AM (#18589610)
stocks have century of exponential returns. bitcoin just a decade
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by acomjean on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:06AM (#18588441)
As an aside I have never seen an ad before with options to “buy” or “get loan” as there was on that page
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by ykevinator on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:54AM (#18588348)
True, but I think this time around, people are realizing that no one is actually using for purposes other than speculation.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by rawoke083600 on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:05AM (#18588431)
Some Venezuelan ppl might disagree with you :)
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by Daishiman on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:50AM (#18588693)
The article makes it pretty clear why this downturn is different, and the argument is pretty compelling.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by fabizeid on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:51AM (#18588323)
In 2013 most people didn't know about bitcoin. A big part of the spike in 2017 was from people who never heard about it before. Today everyone knows about bitcoin.
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by gammateam on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:53AM (#18588341)
People said the same thing in 2014
Re:Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless? by fabizeid on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:26PM (#18630731)
Not true! If you integrate the following chart you'll discover that most people learned about bitcoin end of 2017: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2007-11-07%202...