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Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by giornogiovanna on Sunday December 02, 2018 @10:00AM (#18582555)
This extension just seems to strip tracking data and pretend to be a Google bot. It baffles me that this is somehow concerning enough to be taken down. And anyway, isn't making exemptions for Google's robots sort-of against their policy?

https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66355

Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by blakesterz on Sunday December 02, 2018 @11:21AM (#18582922)
That's exactly what I thought too, not even " sort-of " it seems "without a doubt" against that policy. It seems really tricky for Google to enforce though. Wouldn't they need to send out bots crawling without the GoogleBot agent? That also seems wrong, somehow.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by saalweachter on Sunday December 02, 2018 @11:26PM (#18586316)
If I recall correctly, this rule is why googling for an article and then clicking on it from Google frequently works.

The rule is something like "a user clicking from Google can't see something (meaningfully) different than what the Googlebot sees". So you can paywall direct traffic or links from Reddit or internal links, but that first one from Google is supposed to work.

Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Forge36 on Sunday December 02, 2018 @11:17PM (#18586287)
It does seem wrong. I wonder if they could double crawl and penalize sites that throw up a paywal
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Mirioron on Monday December 03, 2018 @12:43AM (#18586601)
They could add the ability to report sites that do this. That way there would be less sites to double crawl.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by mike22223333 on Sunday December 02, 2018 @12:35PM (#18583337)
There are exceptions for paywalls.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by jobigoud on Monday December 03, 2018 @12:40AM (#18586585)
Is there another use case for cloaking?
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Confusion on Sunday December 02, 2018 @12:10PM (#18583185)
You are not allowed to circumvent paywalls, just like you are not allowed to circumvent locks, no matter how easy they are to circumvent. As far as I have always understood, you may publish a locksmithing guide, even an “entering your home when locked out” guide, but not a “how to commit burglary” guide.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Sacho on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:42AM (#18587036)
It seems that there is a Canadian case that confirms the validity of paywalls as a "technical protection measure". While in the case, the circumvention was social(obtain copy from another subscriber), I doubt circumventing it via user agent spoofing would fare better.

https://tcllp.ca/2016/05/the-copyright-act-and-paywalls/

Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by justinph on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:23PM (#18583983)
A paywall is not a lock. It is code that someone else wants to ship to my computer to run. It's up to me to decide what parts of it I run or not.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Confusion on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:32PM (#18584035)
No, it’s not. The jurisprudence is pretty clear.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by fiatjaf on Sunday December 02, 2018 @03:36PM (#18584422)
the jurisprudence of whom? In my own jurisprudence paywalls are viruses.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Confusion on Sunday December 02, 2018 @03:43PM (#18584463)
The US of course. Look at the list of sites the plugin works for: none of them cares if you ignore their paywall. The likelihood that you would subscribe is negligible. It’s American readers they are after. And for them the jurisprudence is clear. No deliberate subversion of access controls allowed.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by jobigoud on Monday December 03, 2018 @12:42AM (#18586597)
If that's the case Mozilla has no business banning the addon for everyone...
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Confusion on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:36AM (#18587476)
Mozilla is subject to US law. Mozilla has no obligation to enable certain addons only for visitors from certain countries.
Re:Mozilla hit with takedown request for anti-paywall addons by Confusion on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:38PM (#18584076)
Folks, you can downvote me, but that doesn’t make what I’m saying false. Look at the law cited in TFA.