Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by glangdale on Sunday December 02, 2018 @12:16AM
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It's good that the phrase "Cultural Revolution" hasn't been poisoned, say, by some grotesque and cataclysmic series of events that scarred a whole generation in one of the largest countries in the world, or the title of this talk might have been considered in rather poor taste.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by dang on Sunday December 02, 2018 @04:45AM
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I understand the reaction, but this comment breaks at least two of the HN guidelines: the one that asks you not to snark, and this one: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by starbeast on Sunday December 02, 2018 @09:08AM
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On the subject of snark, I am not sure that it is possible to police it fairly without removing value from the site. I am also not sure it is possible to police snark fairly in any circumstances, due to how nebulous a concept it actually is. Many of the figures this community puts on pedestals would have a very hard time conforming to the snark guideline. I reckon Fritz Zwicky would have lasted about a week.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by dang on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:54PM
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I'm not sure it's possible to police anything fairly. But most internet snark is dreck and has a degrading effect, so we do what we can. Were it to take over HN, nobody interesting would stay here anyway.
It's a mistake to compare other contexts, such as writers or scientists sparring amongst themselves, to an internet forum. A large internet forum is a mile wide, an inch deep, and never far from a swamp. It has its own odd dynamic and needs to be managed accordingly.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by zozbot123 on Sunday December 02, 2018 @04:47AM
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> scarred a whole generation
That's a rather optimistic way of putting it, unfortunately. The senseless destruction of cultural heritage that went on during the CR, combined with the sheer scale of it, makes it a civilizational-scale disaster. (The silver lining, I suppose, is that people are finally growing comfortable with this assessment, though for obvious reasons this is not something that will ever be admitted publicly - at least not until a _long_ time has passed from the actual events, and some sort of closure has been independently achieved.) THIS is why the title of this talk is offensive.
Edit: And to be very clear about this, I'm not even assuming bad faith of any sort on the part of whoever was involved with this talk. But it's a fact that people will take offense to that title, and that this is something they should be warned about.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by starbeast on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:19AM
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The inclusion of "@ Startup Grind Global" at the end, doesn't particularly help matters.
edit - all in all, never mind namespace collisions, this is a slow motion car crash of nomenclature and everybody involved should serve some sort of penance and promise not to name anything more important than a houseplant ever again.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by glangdale on Sunday December 02, 2018 @01:52AM
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I dunno, awareness of world history? "Cultural Revolution", to those who have even a fairly basic grasp of Things That Happened Outside Startup Land, is always going to be inextricably linked to China and 1966.
Re:How to Start a Cultural Revolution (2017) [video]
by ttflee on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:20AM
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Given that the revolutionary history of modern China shared adequate similarities to be mapped to a entrepreneurial context of narration, the first 30-year of the communist reign after 1949 looks too much alike a fundamentalist Marx-Leninist experiment, and the revolutionary practices quickly transformed to doctrinal fanaticism leading to disastrous outcome.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
It's a mistake to compare other contexts, such as writers or scientists sparring amongst themselves, to an internet forum. A large internet forum is a mile wide, an inch deep, and never far from a swamp. It has its own odd dynamic and needs to be managed accordingly.
Fair enough. That is a very good way of stating your predicament, I can't really fault it :)
That's a rather optimistic way of putting it, unfortunately. The senseless destruction of cultural heritage that went on during the CR, combined with the sheer scale of it, makes it a civilizational-scale disaster. (The silver lining, I suppose, is that people are finally growing comfortable with this assessment, though for obvious reasons this is not something that will ever be admitted publicly - at least not until a _long_ time has passed from the actual events, and some sort of closure has been independently achieved.) THIS is why the title of this talk is offensive.
Edit: And to be very clear about this, I'm not even assuming bad faith of any sort on the part of whoever was involved with this talk. But it's a fact that people will take offense to that title, and that this is something they should be warned about.
edit - all in all, never mind namespace collisions, this is a slow motion car crash of nomenclature and everybody involved should serve some sort of penance and promise not to name anything more important than a houseplant ever again.