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Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by all2 on Friday November 30, 2018 @05:32PM (#18573352)
Yes. Already massive amounts of data have been lost to the grind of technology forging 'forward'.

As we lose the information, we lose context, and without context 'facts' about the past begin to lose meaning to the present reader.

History, and the stories we have, is/are mankind's most important asset. Without the context of our past as a species, we lose the ability to navigate into the future effectively (without crossing into unfortunate places again, like world war, or slavery, etc.).

We have nothing but stories. Without those, we are nothing.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by SketchySeaBeast on Friday November 30, 2018 @05:57PM (#18573510)
I think that raises an interesting problem - if you want to look back 1000 years the sources are scarce, and largely composed of the thoughts of the educated or the wealthy - people who could read and write and store these items.

500 years from now we're going to be faced with a totally different problem - if a user wants to learn about the year 2018 where do they start? Official documents will appear to be stored beside the thoughts of Kardashians besides trolls. It'll be very hard to parse through any information to get an actual sense of what was happening.

I mean, it's the same problem, using the primary sources to try and figure out the truth, but it'll be the opposite problem as we have now.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by akkartik on Friday November 30, 2018 @06:30PM (#18573746)
https://www.amazon.com/Glasshouse-Charles-Stross/dp/04410150... describes a different problem. In the 27th century the 21st century is considered a dark age not because anything particularly bad happened but just because data archival technology took a big step back. Early storage media were far more fragile than paper.
Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by SketchySeaBeast on Monday December 03, 2018 @09:26AM (#18588945)
> Early storage media were far more fragile than paper.

That's true, but on a timeline of human history that's a pretty brief window and there was a lot of distrust in the medium at that time. We're going to have ~30 years where they have to rely on the old methodologies still, but the 20th century is a whole new ball game. They won't be able to retrieve circa 2000 floppy disks, no, but I feel like a lot of what's been around for the last decade is going to probably stick around.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by BillyBreen on Friday November 30, 2018 @11:04PM (#18575069)
I was hoping someone would reference that. One of my favorite Stross books, and a decade since reading it I frequently think back to it and worry about this mass of data we’re creating and obsoleting each year.
Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by rhizome on Friday November 30, 2018 @07:21PM (#18574053)
"Beatles 3000" is my go-to reference here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2vU8M6CYI

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by tomcam on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:14AM (#18576001)
I missed that one somehow. I will be forever indebted to you.
Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by zanny on Friday November 30, 2018 @08:24PM (#18574371)
500 years from now we will likely have strong AI capable of rapidly processing the exabytes of data we produced in this day and age as a unit test for the self-modifying system updates.

That being said, on a timescale as long as 5 centuries, I don't think anyone can even begin to fathom in the slightest with any degree of confidence what anything will be like. I just hope the advances this century might make it a possibility I can exist long enough to see it myself.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by ekianjo on Saturday December 01, 2018 @02:07AM (#18575665)
> I don't think anyone can even begin to fathom in the slightest with any degree of confidence what anything will be like

You dont even need to talk in 5 centuries. 5 decades themselves should be sufficient to be unpredictable.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by insulanus on Sunday December 02, 2018 @01:34AM (#18581135)
It's a good point, but by then we'll have software to model the relationships between all of the known sources - New York Times Journalists, Reddit Trolls, etc., and filter out some of the craziness.
Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by hobs on Friday November 30, 2018 @07:26PM (#18574086)
As have more and more information the context is loss anyway, we cant glean it from the noise, and even if we could most of us wouldnt care about it anyway, we are busy making our own context.

The fact that we cant access some old software is not a loss akin to forgetting our enslavement of others, and really we need no such memory, we enslave people today.

Re:Al Lowe reveals his Sierra source code collection by abdulhaq on Saturday December 01, 2018 @08:36AM (#18576719)
#peakhackernews calamity strikes, hacker news comment is lost in the mists of time, mankind doomed