Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by gscott on Friday November 30, 2018 @04:17PM (#18572701)

AMD gave away the farm but the money (I think 300 million) saved the company. All of this new innovation from AMD certainly arises from that money. Now however China has easier access to CPU's to build new supercomputer's find find ways to nuke the USA in new novel ways.

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by ethbro on Friday November 30, 2018 @05:13PM (#18573202)

> All of this new innovation from AMD certainly arises from that money.

Just to be clear:

Zen microarch design work started circa-2012. The USD$300m deal was circa-4/2016.

It's accurate to say the capital from the deal likely helped AMD finalize, produce, and distribute Zen / Epyc.

But the microarchitecture design innovation predated the cash infusion.

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by CathayRe on Saturday December 01, 2018 @07:49AM (#18576550)

>It's accurate to say the capital from the deal likely helped AMD finalize, produce, and distribute Zen / Epyc.

It didn't, it just gave a pass / access to Alibaba and Tencent as well as other Government related project to use AMD CPU.

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by ethbro on Saturday December 01, 2018 @02:29PM (#18578426)

We're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about the deal, I'm talking about what AMD did with the cash from the deal.

Look at their balance sheet, and note that without the $300M infusion, the market would have been spooked by their debt levels.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMD/cash-flow?p=AMD

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by mtgx on Friday November 30, 2018 @06:01PM (#18573535)

Amd also gave away the GPU farm when it made a similar deal with Intel. Both are shortsighted.

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by jaas on Friday November 30, 2018 @06:23PM (#18573687)

AMD delivered completed physical GPU components to Intel, which Intel then stuck next to their CPUs. They didn't give Intel anything Intel couldn't get by walking over to MicroCenter.

(So far as I know anyway)

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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by imtringued on Friday November 30, 2018 @08:06PM (#18574286)

Yes, what AMD did was basically give intel a dedicated GPU die with HBM which was then glued on the same package as the CPU.

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