Re:‘I’m Broke and Mostly Friendless, and I’ve Wasted My Whol...
by maratd on Thursday November 29, 2018 @08:20PM
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> The state became the church, its leaders became the saints.
Can you name a single attempt to eradicate religion that didn't end up with the very description you provide?
Re:‘I’m Broke and Mostly Friendless, and I’ve Wasted My Whol...
by zapzupnz on Thursday November 29, 2018 @10:21PM
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No, but history’s follies are not the full extent of all possibilities and potential consequences.
Re:‘I’m Broke and Mostly Friendless, and I’ve Wasted My Whol...
by dempseye on Friday November 30, 2018 @06:52AM
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Stalin brought back the orthodox church after Lenin got rid of it. When Stalin died, Khruschev cracked down on the church again.
Re:‘I’m Broke and Mostly Friendless, and I’ve Wasted My Whol...
by maratd on Friday November 30, 2018 @11:51AM
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Not quite. When he took power, he ruthlessly enforced atheism and slaughtered anyone who stood in his way. Only when he was fighting for his life with the Nazis did he find the Orthodox Church useful in his efforts. After he was done with the Nazis, he went back to his old tricks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_t...
Re:‘I’m Broke and Mostly Friendless, and I’ve Wasted My Whol...
by dempseye on Friday November 30, 2018 @12:44PM
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Stalin's relative clemency towards the orthodox church does give the lie to the idea that the policy is "Stalinist." It was a Leninist policy of long standing. Khruschev reverted to it despite his explicit denunciation of Stalinism.
> After he was done with the Nazis, he went back to his old tricks.
According to the article you yourself linked, he was pretty soft on them from after the war until his death.
This is a little disingenuous.
Yes, states described as communist attempted to eradicate religion; to do that, they merely replaced religion with the state. The state became the church, its leaders became the saints.
Don't conflate the example of failed, corrupt Stalinist communist states with the concept of the eradication of religion, they're not at all mutually inclusive.