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Re:Competition Is Dying, and Taking Capitalism with It? by mindcrime on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @11:35PM (#18558135)
So there was no trade before "government" was invented?
Re:Competition Is Dying, and Taking Capitalism with It? by danaris on Thursday November 29, 2018 @12:48PM (#18562076)
Incorrect.

Trade can happen with any two or more people who have different things (and the things need not even be physical).

Stable markets, on the other hand, require a stable government of some sort to maintain them. And that's what you really need for the economic side of what we would think of as civilization.

Re:Competition Is Dying, and Taking Capitalism with It? by djrobstep on Thursday November 29, 2018 @02:09AM (#18558617)
Correct.

Trade cannot happen without the threat of violent attack against those who would otherwise freely use particular land or possessions, aka rules, aka law enforcement, aka government.

Re:Competition Is Dying, and Taking Capitalism with It? by mindcrime on Thursday November 29, 2018 @11:24AM (#18561362)
And your evidence to support this crazy assertion?

Also, what's your basis for claiming that "government" is the only way to protect people/possessions from violent attack?

Re:Competition Is Dying, and Taking Capitalism with It? by djrobstep on Thursday November 29, 2018 @04:24PM (#18564160)
If one was not violently prevented from using land or objects, why would one "trade" for their use, when they could freely use them already?