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Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by fossuser on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @02:00PM (#18554502)
I'd guess it's just people reacting to financial incentives.

It's a bummer that our society is structured with financial incentives that are so poorly aligned with interesting goals.

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by wpietri on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @02:08PM (#18554605)
I think it's incumbent on us to change that. Too often something dubious is justified by how much money it makes. But we don't have to buy into it. And we can call it out when it happens.

Look at how people treat the statement, "I work at Facebook", for example. It has changed a lot over the last decade. It used to be hot and positive. But I had a friend start just recently. They're doing something worthwhile and entirely unrelated to the many things terrible about Facebook. But they still felt obliged to apologize for it.

I'd like to see more of that pressure applied to people who are making money by making the world worse.

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by TeMPOraL on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @02:15PM (#18554660)
> I'd like to see more of that pressure applied to people who are making money by making the world worse.

Yup. 100% agreed. And I want to remind everyone here that putting such pressure is a perfectly legitimate thing to do in market economy. Companies respond to market signals, so if a moral value is not made into a signal - i.e. made to impact sales - it won't get considered.

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by WA on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @02:33PM (#18554852)
So should I tell other people in my coworking space that I think their job is total bullshit?

One or two happen to be in some field that trigger my bullshit alert and I think it’s somewhat sketchy what they do. For example, stuff around network marketing for dietary supplements.

I mean, who am I to judge?

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by wpietri on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @05:58PM (#18556487)
I don't know that I'd walk over and say, "Buddy, this is bullshit!" Just as a practical matter, that doesn't do much to change minds.

But as to who you are, I'd say you have several things that give you grounds to have an opinion. One is that you're a human being and want to see other humans treated well. Two, you're part of a variety of communities, and you have an interest in seeing those communities be healthy. Three, you're a successful entrepreneur, so you have real expertise in what makes for a good business. And surely there are more.

In your shoes I'd definitely look for opportunities to influence people like that. It can be as simple as the look that passes across your face when they tell you what they do. If they ask for advice, you can point them to something healthier. You could give a talk on what makes for good, sustainable businesses. And with people where you are already an influencer (e.g., friends, family) you can definitely help keep them from getting into work like that.

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by WA on Thursday November 29, 2018 @03:32AM (#18558867)
Thanks for your insightful and encouraging comment. This actually helps me a lot. The community-aspect is totally right: I don't want to have the coworking environment poisoned with "get-rich-quick" people.

> You could give a talk on what makes for good, sustainable businesses.

I will do! And I'll try to find words that sound encouraging to them. After all, most of them probably just want more freedom for themselves and the sketchy business ideas probably look like the simplest way to get there.

Re:I Bootstrapped My Side Project to $6k/Month (2017) by wpietri on Thursday November 29, 2018 @10:58AM (#18561108)
Excellent point. My mom got suckered by a couple of MLM schemes when I was a kid. She was very sharp but really wanted to improve our lives, and these people sold the opportunity angle really hard. Although it made me absolutely hate get-rich-quick schemes, I also know that the people caught up in them are generally sincere and well meaning.

Good luck with it! Feel free to drop me a line and let me know how it goes.