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Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by imglorp on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @10:47AM (#18543222)
Can confirm, China watches its citizens abroad, closely, and in person sometimes. Their families can be affected, and if they go back home to visit, there can be problems.
Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by pixl97 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:06AM (#18543459)
>China watches its citizens abroad

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Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by mtrovo on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:19PM (#18544276)
Think about the synergy that this could unlock, Alphabet comes with the citizen tracking service (not malicious, just for ads, obviously) and plug it to their citizen scoring service.

Further research could be done on integrating this new dataset with Project Maven, think about the opportunities of engaging only with end users with score below a threshold.

Did I see something like this on Black Mirror?

Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by ocdtrekkie on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:26PM (#18544374)
You did see something like this on Black Mirror, specifically because Black Mirror wrote the episode based on the Chinese social credit system.
Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by jjcc on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:34PM (#18545173)
Can confirm your confirm is fabricated from thin air.

The difference would be: you might not know you are lying while I do. We are doing the same thing, confirm something not conformable. Theoretically that's lying

Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by imglorp on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @08:02AM (#18551096)
Yes, I witnessed it first hand.

1989, downtown Cleveland, soon after Tiananmen Square. We'd all seen the "tank man" and people were talking about all the dead witnessed by those present (~10k?) versus the official cover story of 300 and denial.

So there were protests across the US, including downtown Cleveland, mostly visiting Chinese students from CSU and CWRU, and plenty of horrified locals there to support them. There were a couple of Chinese guys not marching but watching from the edges while people walked past. They both had the same sunglasses, trench coats, and SLR cameras with long lenses, and they were taking pictures of the marchers. If you've ever been in Cleveland in June, this is not appropriate attire for cloudy and windy, so they stood out from the locals. The Chinese on student visas told me they were government, often seen at such events, and they were cataloging Chinese there for later study and reprisals to family or when they returned home.

Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by nil_pointer on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:04PM (#18545519)
You don't know he's lying, you just assume it because he didn't cite a source. It's not the first time I've heard people make his claim, so it might not be baseless.
Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by jjcc on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:11PM (#18546211)
Let's leave the topic of Google issue.

Did you see my 2nd sentence which implied I was lying? Which almost means making a baseless claim?

You assumed that I assume he was lying only because he didn't cite source. That assumption is not correct.

Now I can tell you that I originally had 3rd sentence: the 2nd sentence is a lie. I do have solid evidence that he was lying (unintentionally I believe) but it's too difficult to present the evidence.

Re:We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly by ionised on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @06:23AM (#18550714)
How can someone not know if they are lying?