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Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by novaleaf on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @10:34AM (#18543069)
Going to a Pacific Northwest beach today vs 30-40 years ago, You may also notice a lack of seagulls on beaches. I remember Kalaloch on the Olympic Peninsula used to have thousands of the vermin. Go there now, and you are lucky to see 10 in an entire day.
Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by tjr225 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:09AM (#18543504)
While I find all of this stuff totally disturbing - claiming that you'd be lucky to see 10 seagulls at Kalaloch Beach is insane.

I used to live in Olympia and would visit Kalaloch/Ruby Beach on a monthly basis - even camped there a couple weekends ago. There are seagulls(and Bald Eagles, and even Pelicans) all around there to this day. I even have photographic evidence(shot on a medium format toy camera right in front of Kalaloch Lodge earlier this year): https://i.imgur.com/hMwDuXs.jpg

I'm not sure what these birds' patterns are wrt to collecting food but a cursory dig in my photos shows that I've captured pictures of anywhere from a handful to hundreds of birds on this strip of coast on different occasions over the course of the last year and a half or so.

Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by novaleaf on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:14PM (#18544218)
To elaborate on my observation: aprox 30 years ago in the summer you would see thousands of seagulls on Kalaloch. Perhaps 50-100 in eye view at all times. Over the last few years I've gone to Kalaloch in summer you are lucky to see more than 2 at a time.

Seagulls still exist obviously, but there numbers are drastically smaller. As they are basically rats with wings, perhaps it's just better trash management, but the observation still stands.

Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by tjr225 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:19PM (#18544282)
You said something far more alarming and also flat out wrong - that's what I'm refuting. This 2 or 10 or whatever tiny amount of birds at a time thing you are claiming to experience...doesn't match my experience whatsoever. I can provide more photographs if you don't believe me.

I can't speak to the pacific northwest 30 years ago so I'll take your word for it that there were more birds on the coast then.

Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by novaleaf on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:48PM (#18547595)
Sorry you don't believe me.

Here's my own photo evidence from South Beach in July 2017. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JzporX8XmFFswgSu8

I didn't go in 2018, but 2016 and 2017 I was there for about a week. same empty beaches both trips.

You being there in Nov may be why you see seagulls, I never have been there in winter.

I don't have any photos handy from the 1980's to scan, but it truly is a stark difference.

Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by brohee on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @10:44AM (#18543188)
In the case of seagulls, it may be better trash management since they love to strive on the stuff...
Re:The Insect Apocalypse Is Here by novaleaf on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:16PM (#18544232)
exactly what I was wondering! My hatred of them stems from being pooped on as a kid every summer. Perhaps thats why I remember them so well.