I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by jcelerier on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:48AM (#18541506)

> 1. turn on BT on the host device (if required); 2. turn on the client device; 3. listen to music.

how does that work in a crowded space, e.g. public transport, where I'd wager most people are using BT headsets nowadays ?

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Ambroos on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:58AM (#18541563)

Generally quite well. Pairing means your devices know to look for eachother, and the bitrate of music streaming over Bluetooth combined with the low range means you'll need some unrealistic congestion before things really start to fail.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by geggam on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:10AM (#18541633)

unrealistic congestion before things really start to fail.

aka public transit...

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by pimeys on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:14AM (#18541665)

Or any busy street crossing with lots of cars.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by TeMPOraL on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:29AM (#18541755)

On the one hand, that suggests either shitty Bluetooth devices you're using, or some pretty unusual density of Bluetooth users in the crowd.

On the other hand, this is what mass adoption of wireless headphones will lead to, and it shows how ridiculously bad this is compared to the tried-and-true wire.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by tjohns on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:16PM (#18546252)

I've never run into Bluetooth congestion problems on public transit or busy streets. BT has a lot of problems, this really isn't one of them.

There are some BT devices that have poor antenna designs and underpowered transcievers, where the proximity of other humans — or even your own body — can significantly attenuate the signal. But this isn't a problem with the spec itself, and there's plenty of devices that have shown it's possible to do it right.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by gtyras2mrs on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @07:18AM (#18550922)

BT runs into congestion issues quite often in my experience. I’ve experienced connectivity issues in areas where there are a lot of wireless networks.

Considering that WiFi and Bluetooth both run at near 2.4GHz - I’d assume that areas with a lot of wireless networks could (and have in my experience) interfere with BT.

This wasn’t limited to 1 set of devices though. Tried it with my AirPods and a pair of NC Sennheiser headphones. Both cause issues when walking into busy (in terms of WiFi) areas.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Spivak on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @12:01PM (#18544065)

Everyone on a bus could be using BT and you're still not at enough people for connections to drop.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by jcelerier on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:18AM (#18542038)

but that's the pairing step which was touted as problematic for users

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by fouc on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:19AM (#18542039)

https://www.logitech.com/images/pdf/emea_business/2.4ghz_whi...

Seems like it's possible for bluetooth to handle up to 78 users in 10m space without interference.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by this_user on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:57AM (#18542260)

BT is on the same 2.4 GHz band that most Wifis use, and I can tell you from personal experience that there can be interference. Given how ubiquitous Wifi is, the available bandwidth for BT devices will most definitely not be able to serve the theoretical maximum of users in any given space.

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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by rs23296008n1 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:19PM (#18548153)

I hit BT congestion every day. I don't care about theoretical maximum users. When I get into various parts of the city centre BT is worthless. I've switched back to cable.

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