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Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by allannienhuis on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:29PM (#18528477)
It's a shame that costs for fighting issues like that aren't automatically awarded. I have no idea about the relevant laws and how they might be shaped to protect the institutions involved, but it would seem to be a sane way to deal with this type of thing, and provide a small amount of accountability for the institutions (and therefore _some_ incentive to fix systemic issues).
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by raleigh_user on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:31PM (#18528492)
Yeah I was kind of shocked when the lawyer said yesterday I'd be on the hook for more costs. I almost assumed it'd be free or credited since it was taken care of and is probably an honest mistake.

But, I guess that proves what they say about assumptions!

Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by joecool1029 on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:56PM (#18528983)
Don't know how it works there. For traffic court here, NJ, I've always taken matters into my own hands. The last ticket I received was for failing to update my address. I argued to the prosecutor that the law only required me to have an address where I received mail. He only cared that I updated it by the time I made my appearance and quickly dismissed. However, the court cost was actually more than the ticket and I made a point to ask him to waive that as well, which he did.

There are other sorts of 'administrative' fees that are nearly impossible to waive. Things like license reinstatement, points surcharges, and costs from MVC (DMV) usually can't be waived by the court as it isn't the court that imposes them.

Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by ams6110 on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:42PM (#18528564)
If you are hiring a lawyer to help with this, sure you will have to pay his fees, which are probably going to be several hundred dollars at least.

Did you try just going into the office of the clerk of the court with the receipt and saying "hey there's been a mistake."

Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by raleigh_user on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:45PM (#18528587)
The office of the clerk of court is hours away in another state. And its been the weekend so hasn't been open. Based on the traffic record I pulled on myself yesterday it shows payment never received from the court, although I have a receipt for $312 bucks paid. Maybe a simple fix but Im paying to have someone take care of it. Since I now have a court date in another city I live hours from during a work week.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by u801e on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:04PM (#18528705)
You might be able to talk to them on the phone and fax them a copy of the receipt you have.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by aaronharnly on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:33PM (#18528852)
I’m just impressed you still have the receipt from six years ago. Good job!
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by maccard on Sunday November 25, 2018 @04:01PM (#18529007)
I've had two parking tickets in my life - one a few weeks ago and one almost a decade ago - Ive still got both receipts, on the off chance something like this happens.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by TomMarius on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:37PM (#18528869)
I assume that it's not a receipt like from a store, but a governmental "receipt" - a document proving payment of fine, which is something I'd definitely save on purpose.

(I'm not from the US, I have no idea how yours look - in Europe we have that on an A4 paper)

Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by 549362-30499 on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:41PM (#18528892)
Did you not change your address and license when you moved states? That's typically required within 30 or 60 days, although a lot of people do ignore those laws.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by _trampeltier on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:37PM (#18528540)
Why change something. Now they get even more money. Sad but true.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by allannienhuis on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:12PM (#18528745)
sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by reidjs on Sunday November 25, 2018 @04:09PM (#18529053)
In effect the state received an extra $250 by making this mistake, so there is little incentive for them to fix it.
Re:AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With ... by allannienhuis on Sunday November 25, 2018 @06:45PM (#18529836)
fair enough. But that's a pretty adversarial way to think about the state (as an opponent of the citizen). I'd prefer to think that in most democracies, laws are usually designed or at least intended to protect citizens from abuses like that. That said, I think the U.S. has a less-than-stellar reputation for citizen-friendly laws. :(