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Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by raverbashing on Saturday November 24, 2018 @05:18AM (#18521359)
Unfortunately this sounds more like a gimmick than anything else.

I have a small suspicion that those who decided for that never set foot in the countries considered for this (though I might be wrong).

Though it is undeniable that there is talent there and we should try to make things easier to them, there is a limit and a compromise in making things not harder for other people as well.

As someone familiar with 3rd world country business, a lot of things people take for granted is not trivial

Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by rtpg on Saturday November 24, 2018 @05:36AM (#18521404)
Just as a datapoint: the author of cURL basically can’t go to the US right now for.... some reason https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2018/07/28/administrative-purgat...

The opaqueness of the US system is pretty high.

I do agree that other places have bigger problems. There won’t be too many conferences in Saudi Arabia I bet.

Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by _jgdh on Saturday November 24, 2018 @05:55AM (#18521446)
I love Daniel and the amazing work he’s done over the last several years ... but that blog reads like a parody. He’s complaining about filling forms like it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to him. Meanwhile, for folks who aren’t American/Canadian/European/Australian, this is just a regular Tuesday.

Typically when I file for visas I have to give detailed statements of all my bank accounts, all my investments, my income tax statements for the last 3 years, a list of all the places I’ve travelled, medical insurance, a letter from my employer guaranteeing that I’ll be back and god knows what else. This was for an Australian visa btw, that allows visa free travel if you’re American, Canadian or European.

That’s not even the half of it. A friend of mine applied for a Schenghen visa for a 6 day trip and got a 5 day visa. The border agent then harassed him on his way out for “overstaying” his visa.

Heaven forbid that people with privilege are subjected to the horrors of filling forms.

Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by em-bee on Saturday November 24, 2018 @06:29AM (#18521536)
you have a point, but the issue is not the amount of forms he has to fill out, but rather the fact that he is neither getting a visa, nor being rejected with some explanation why.
Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by pjc50 on Saturday November 24, 2018 @06:39AM (#18521563)
I think the point is that nobody should be subjected to that level of intrusive bureaucracy.
Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by rocky1138 on Saturday November 24, 2018 @10:24AM (#18522381)
I disagree. Someone who wishes to claim asylum or intends to move to a country for life should be subject to a high level of scrutiny.
Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by lake99 on Saturday November 24, 2018 @05:43AM (#18521421)
The locations seem like gimmicks to me quite a lot of times, and I don't mean ICLR conferences specifically. This time it happens to be politically motivated. At other times, it seems like they are picking exotic locations (Hawaii, Bahamas, etc.) because they know their university or company is going to fund it.
Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by PeterisP on Saturday November 24, 2018 @06:42AM (#18521570)
Exotic locations make sense - no matter where on globe you put the conference pretty much everyone has to fly there, and half of the people have to fly around half the world; and renting a large venue in such a location generally is cheaper than the major metropolises, where costs sometimes are extreme.
Re:Major AI conference is moving to Africa in 2020 due to vi... by raverbashing on Saturday November 24, 2018 @09:09AM (#18522065)
Well, it's usually an extra stop to reach Bahamas as compared to a major city in the US/Canada (thinking about people that are "close", let's say North America/South America/Europe/Africa). Hawaii is easier for Asia/West Coast/Oceania and hard for everybody else.