Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by beginningguava on Saturday November 24, 2018 @08:59AM
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The US led the world in emission reductions in 2018, meanwhile the EU, Canada, India, and China increased their production significantly. Yet the US gets slammed by the global community
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by usaar333 on Saturday November 24, 2018 @09:58AM
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Because the US is so high absolutely. Should it get an award just because natural gas got cheaper than coal?
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by yostrovs on Saturday November 24, 2018 @11:00AM
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Yes it should. It made it happen because instead of having endless meetings and brainstorming sessions in Lesbos or Johannesburg, the heartless ignoramuses of Texas figured out how to drill for clean energy. What really did the brainstormes accomplish considering the chart presented?
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by lugg on Monday November 26, 2018 @07:45AM
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You think fracking is clean?
You think the "brainstorming sessions" accomplished nothing because of cherry picked single year data on Imgur?
Yikes.
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by specialist on Saturday November 24, 2018 @11:15AM
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Absolutely not.
One useful rhetorical side effect is breaking the narrative linking GDP with petrol consumption. Opening people's mind's to the possibility that conservation and switching to renewable won't crater the economy.
Perceptions matter.
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by emj on Saturday November 24, 2018 @09:25AM
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Growing is easy when you start from zero, and reducing is easy when you can easily move your production elsewhere. BP statistical review probably have their numbers right, I'm more concern about the message they want to spread. (I do not say that EU/China should be able to increase their emissions, just that the US is not decreasing its consumption therefore it is impossible to decrease emission)
Re:Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet
by lugg on Monday November 26, 2018 @07:41AM
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The USA with 4% of the world's population is responsible for over a third of the greenhouse gases unnaturally released.
You better believe the global community will slam the USA for their emissions.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/01/climate/us-bi...
Other countries have their issues and NOBODY is defending them here. So I'm not sure what you're getting at with the rest of that statement.
That doesn't make sense.
Not all countries need to do it. Just most.
In in actual fact, the sooner leader countries like the USA do it the sooner other countries get their act together.
Don't act like this is all or nothing. It's not.
Furthermore, the sooner the USA does it the sooner technologies improve, the sooner other smaller countries are suddenly enabled by said technologies.
That aside whole "we all need to do it" is utter nonsense. No, you don't. Other countries taking advantage of you is still not a socially moral excuse. Mind yourself first thanks.