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Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by WalterBright on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:00PM (#18520211)
Some universities teach "follow the rules", others teach "here's where the rules come from." I was fortunate enough to have attended one of the latter.

This was brought home to me when I had to calculate the moment of inertia of some gears in a gearbox. I started with the concept of MoI, and worked it out with a bit of calculus. Another engineer was looking over my work, and asked "what book did you get the formula for MoI out of?" (The shape of the gear was unusual and the book formulae didn't match.)

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by analog31 on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:11PM (#18520253)
It would actually surprise me if any university had the ability to impose an overall bias in one of those directions over the other. There would seem to be too much variation among the individual professors, teachers, students, etc.

Anecdotally, I live in the shadow of a Big Ten university, so I know a lot of academics, and I don't think any of them have expressed a "follow the rules" approach that I was able to discern. Likewise for the people I know who are K-12 teachers, private music teachers, and so forth.

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by WalterBright on Saturday November 24, 2018 @12:31AM (#18520622)
I don't know about any university, but at Caltech it was consistent that everything used was derived from first principles. There wasn't any "trust me, use this rule".
Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by mclehman on Saturday November 24, 2018 @11:44AM (#18522788)
That wasn't consistent at my school, but classes that did derive everything from first principles were consistently the best ones.
Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by analog31 on Saturday November 24, 2018 @09:32PM (#18525101)
I went to a small religious college, and my experience was similar to yours.

Edit: There were some exceptions, such as my double bass lessons.

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by tartoran on Saturday November 24, 2018 @01:37AM (#18520817)
I think it depends on the choice of professors and lots of good ones do teach in not so Ivy League but in regular city univs. I had 50/50 hit and misses with professors in my university. I think that's a decently good number too..
Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by dsfyu404ed on Friday November 23, 2018 @11:51PM (#18520501)
How would gear tooth profile affect MoI?
Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by WalterBright on Saturday November 24, 2018 @12:23AM (#18520591)
I just drew a box around half of the teeth. But the rest of the gear cross-section, being an airplane part, was sculpted to put material only where it was needed. Ideally, the strain at any point should be the same as any other point.

So the MoI was not simply a stackup of some stock shapes.

It's not that the calculation was particularly difficult, it's just that calculus was needed, and one couldn't just copy the formula for a stock shape.

It was just clear to me that some engineers were formula-pluggers and others learned it at a deeper level.

Stock shapes were certainly handy to check the math with, however. Fit the gear into a stock shape envelope, and have the gear envelope a stock shape. Your calculation should fall in between the results of those shapes.

The purpose of calculating the MoI was to determine if the stops at the end of the screw were strong enough to stop the gearbox without shattering.

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by dsfyu404ed on Saturday November 24, 2018 @12:29AM (#18520613)
>being an airplane part,

That explains it.

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by WalterBright on Saturday November 24, 2018 @12:33AM (#18520632)
<g>

Airplane parts are a whole 'nother world. I imagine that rocket parts take that to the nth level, which is one reason that working on rockets is the ultimate for an engineer. A real engineer would pay to work on an F1 engine design <g>.

Re:Going to university does not broaden the mind by saagarjha on Friday November 23, 2018 @11:56PM (#18520517)
It would change the distribution of mass, presumably.