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Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by wolfgke on Friday November 23, 2018 @03:35PM (#18518763)
> If you have Apple money, you buy Apple (either for the performance/value or as a status symbol).

Rather: If you have Apple money, you buy a ThinkPad (either for the performance/value or as a status symbol). :-)

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by tedunangst on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:59PM (#18519999)
Lenovo suffers from perpetual sale syndrome. I know they have varying sales, from 20% to 40% off or free upgrades, but I'm never certain the current offer is the best available, so I postpone purchasing to see if next week is better and usually forget to actually follow up. I'd probably have spent twice as much if they offered Apple like experience, where the price is the price.
Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by iwiririwo on Friday November 23, 2018 @07:11PM (#18519625)
Good luck ordering anything from Lenovo. For me, checkout failed after successful Visa verification. Support answers they don't know why and cannot help. Unacceptable for me if I do 1800€ purchases. Warranty terms are completely obfuscated.

Try to find an answer if your TP has world-wide support. You can't. It needs IWS International Warranty Service. TPs have that by default, people say, but during checkout it will tell you IWS is not applicable (because included? the IWS model number list will tell you, but do you have the correct model number during checkout?)

/rant

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by twblalock on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:36PM (#18519920)
Lenovo has one of the worst laptop websites. They have 10 "series" currently on the site: the X, T, P, Yoga, A, E, L, 13, 11E, and V.

Given the number of configurable options across the product line for processors, memory, hard drives, screens, etc., there must be thousands of possible combinations.

I assume many laptops across all of the series are available with 13-inch screens, so the name of the "13 series" is particularly confusing.

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by snaky on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:43PM (#18520343)
Thinkpad buyers use the other Lenovo site - http://psref.lenovo.com/
Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by mcny on Saturday November 24, 2018 @04:22AM (#18521225)
Thank you for this link. So if I wanted to ask someone to get something specific for me if link them to

http://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_A485?M=20MU...

And they'd go somewhere and get quotes? What's the process?

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by CptMauli on Saturday November 24, 2018 @11:09AM (#18522633)
Never seen this!

Is there something similar for other brands?

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by iwiririwo on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:06PM (#18520234)
While I think most of the "series" itself make sense, the configurations are often insane.

The X280 still has a 1366x768 display option.

For T480s, you need to figure out if you have 8GB RAM or 4GB soldered + 4GB. Even more stupid, the latter option comes more expensive.

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by snaky on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:46PM (#18520351)
There are 8GB soldered, 8GB soldered + 8GB DIMM, and other options http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T480s
Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by iwiririwo on Saturday November 24, 2018 @08:34PM (#18524912)
so that 8GB option I considered to buy doesn't even have upgradeable RAM? Thank you for that page, it's incredibly helpful, also since I'm in a region without English website.

The configuration page lists the options like that:

8GB (4GB soldered + 4GB)

8GB

For me that implies the 8GB are configurable. What the fuck.

Re:Why Do Laptop Makers Have Such Terrible Websites by sitkack on Saturday November 24, 2018 @09:17AM (#18522095)
I came here to complain about Lenovo's website.