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Re:US asks allies to drop Huawei by jacobush on Friday November 23, 2018 @02:45AM (#18515005)
"Google will leak that data to some third party or send it out of that region?"

Yes. Every municipality around here goes with Microsoft or their own on premises installations for this very reason.

Re:US asks allies to drop Huawei by saiya-jin on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:24AM (#18515358)
Strange schizophrenia from Microsoft - having actually presumably secure cloud instances on site, and actively making their other products less secure by monitoring users of their core OS and Office suites even if users specifically want to prevent that, even the top enterprise editions. I understand those are different parts of the company managed by different persons, but at the end, top of the pyramid is the same.

Corporations are like people - they don't change. You can put on different mask every day, but underneath its the same flesh and bones (or decision makers in this case). I would be wary of the notion that Microsoft is somehow a good moral company in one specific area, when it is amoral in others.

Re:US asks allies to drop Huawei by jacobush on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:33AM (#18515394)
I agree. However, I don't think you should first at how moral or amoral they seem, but rather try to evaluate how credible their offer is. If their secure products make money, hopefully this kind of product offer will prevail, or at least survive within the beast.

Though, morality is part of corporate culture, and I think different cultures can have different levels of toxicity. Cough Oracle cough. If the corporation is too affected, it may be foolish to even waste time evaluating their, on paper, decent and secure offer. If you have reason to believe they will find a way to throw you under the bus anyway later on.

Re:US asks allies to drop Huawei by mynameisvlad on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:22PM (#18518051)
> Corporations are like people - they don't change. You can put on different mask every day, but underneath its the same flesh and bones (or decision makers in this case).

Yes, Satya Nadella is the CEO of the company, but Azure and Windows are in completely separate organizations, with completely separate senior leadership. The goals of the two organizations are also vastly different, with one is focused on consumer products (Windows) while the other is focused on developer and enterpirse services (Azure). Because of this, the decisions made by one SLT is not at all indicative of another SLT's decisions.

Disclaimer: MSFT Employee working in Azure.