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Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by rcMgD2BwE72F on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:07PM (#18506498)
But again, if electricity is cheap enough, why not electric trains like we do in Europe? Or hydrogen if you need some energy storage on board? See http://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/could-hydrogen-train...

I bet that this would be much better for the environment than algae.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by nradov on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @06:13PM (#18506827)
Short range commuter rail will be electrified in some places like Caltrain.

http://www.caltrain.com/projectsplans/CaltrainModernization/...

Hydrogen is probably a dead end. It's too bulky, hard to handle, and the energy efficiency is terrible. Most hydrogen fuel today is produced from natural gas, which is just stupid.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by ac29 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:31PM (#18506632)
>why not electric trains like we do in Europe?

While electrification of the US freight rail network certainly may happen, you have to remember the US is twice as large as the EU (9.1M sq km vs 4.5M sq km) and only a quarter the population density (33 vs 117 per sq km). Long distance passenger train routes don't really make sense (electrified or not, very few people want to spend 2 days on the train when a flight is 4 hours), meaning rail in the US is almost entirely freight.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by seanmcdirmid on Thursday November 22, 2018 @01:53AM (#18508346)
China has a similar size to the USA and has invested heavily in HSR as an alternative to flying. Beijing to Guangzhou is 9 hours by train, which is pretty competitive with a flight when considering travel time to/from airports as well as the other hassle.

China also does a lot of freight and has gone through a lot of electrification (75%). Freight runs between Beijing and Lhasa, which is similar to NYC to LA.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by ip26 on Thursday November 22, 2018 @12:14AM (#18508009)
I haven't gone deep into the economics, but I've found rail cost several times as much for a 30 hour ride with nowhere to sleep, compared to the 2 hour flight or 20 hour drive. So of course ridership is low.

Some intersection of actually-competitive pricing and higher speed tracks, and it seems like rail would have the potential to be plenty competitive. Lower vehicle purchae, maintenance & fuel costs, greater comfort. If I could make a 2 hour flight in 4 or 6 hours by train for 90% of the cost, I'd probably never fly again.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by toast0 on Thursday November 22, 2018 @12:59AM (#18508175)
To my knowledge, Europe doesn't have an extensive network of freight railways, instead it has a working network of passenger rail, with lots of electrification.

The US freight network hasn't yet managed to fully rollout positive train control, electrification seems like a much harder problem. Moving freight requires a lot more power than moving people, and also has a lot more sidings and things. Some lines run double height cars, which I'm guessing would add additonal complications.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by seanmcdirmid on Thursday November 22, 2018 @01:46AM (#18508323)
Europe has freight rail, they often use separate tracks, and most of it is electrified.

China has a lot of freight, is as large as the USA, and has a decent amount of electrification as well.