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Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by isostatic on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @12:46PM (#18504484)
> I could see the most practical use of this technology for propulsion where crashing isn't a major concern.

Missiles jumped to mind. That's their whole purpose.

Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by stouset on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @01:27PM (#18504823)
Missiles, just like planes, still use most of their energy to not crash into the ground.

The point was that this current design won’t be enough energy to keep a heavy vehicle aloft, but it could be enough to propel something that can passively stay airborne.

Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by moftz on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @01:26PM (#18504816)
Except you need missiles to go much faster than ion thrusters can go. 11 mph is enough for someone to shoot down your missile with a rifle.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by jandrese on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @01:52PM (#18505007)
At 11 mph they could outrun it on foot.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by isostatic on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @03:34PM (#18505836)
Prepare to engage enemy . . . bogey’s airspeed not sufficient for intercept. Suggest we get out and walk
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by moftz on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @01:47PM (#18554368)
Anti-missile defense provided by strong gusts of wind.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by dangerlibrary on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:01PM (#18505082)
s/rifle/rock/
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by cal5k on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @01:22PM (#18504792)
"We've fired the missiles, sir"

"Excellent... when do they hit?"

"According to our calculations... ohhh about 6 weeks from now"

Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by isostatic on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @01:28PM (#18504828)
Revenge is a dish best served cold.

I was thinking how Musk could do that. Launch some tungstan rods into a highly eliptical orbit, small thruster + control pack on them to adjust their orbit when required. When it's out at say 300,000k+ fire the engine for a few seconds, adjusting the orbit so it will crash into the chosen target a few days from now. The high apogee means not a lot of power to change orbit to collision, and almost impossible to detect. It would likely appear to be an asteroid hit.

Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by ben_w on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:13PM (#18505180)
I’ve looked at this idea myself. At current cost per kg to LEO launch and kW/kg solar, even if you could totally ignore reaction mass (I dunno, invent a ramscoop for van Allen belts or something), it only becomes cost competitive with dynamite after a few years.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by DuskStar on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:34PM (#18506649)
Dynamite doesn't come with a delivery mechanism though, which might change the equation a little.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by rripken on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:05PM (#18505110)
You may like Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by patrickg_zill on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:04PM (#18505105)
It's rumored that the US military has a "Rod of God" satellite. No way to confirm its existence of course.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by thrill on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:38PM (#18505367)
That would certainly raise the level of Bitcoin blackmail.
Re:Silent and Simple Ion Engine Powers a Plane with No Movin... by Tade0 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:14PM (#18505195)
I think his guy is in that Tesla Roadster in space.