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Re:Make vs. Tup (2016) by weberc2 on Monday November 19, 2018 @12:51PM (#18488190)
I'm interpreting your comment as implying that it's somehow a waste of time to develop alternatives to an incumbent that just won't evolve. I'm not sure if that's the point you were trying to make or not, but I think it's important to call out that perhaps Make was improved precisely because it was challenged? And whether or not this was the case for Make, it has certainly been the case for other technologies.
Re:Make vs. Tup (2016) by geezerjay on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:09PM (#18488826)
> I'm interpreting your comment as implying that it's somehow a waste of time to develop alternatives to an incumbent that just won't evolve.

That assertion has no objective meaning, or even a point. Change for the sake of change does more to create problems instead of fixing them. Is there actually anything that is broken in Make's specification?

Re:Make vs. Tup (2016) by weberc2 on Monday November 19, 2018 @04:26PM (#18489891)
I’m not sure why you think anyone is advocating for change for its own sake. Is there something about the thread context that has confused you? The quoted statement seems perfectly valid to me.
Re:Make vs. Tup (2016) by geezerjay on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @12:56PM (#18495903)
> I'm not sure why you think anyone is advocating for change for its own sake.

Your only remotely objective criticism of Make is that "it just won't evolve". That's not a reason at all, and only advocates change for the sake of change.

Perhaps you could start to have a case if you could identify any aspect of Make that has problems that need fixing. Until then, any argument based on vage notions of evolving is pointless.

Re:Make vs. Tup (2016) by weberc2 on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @08:17PM (#18499442)
> Your only remotely objective criticism of Make is that "it just won't evolve".

I'm not the critic. You misunderstood the thread. Another user observed that lots of people have made other tools because they found make wanting and that make evolved to add features (presumably borrowing good ideas from its challengers). If you must be defensive, take it up with the authors of the aforementioned make-rivals.