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Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by toyg on Monday November 19, 2018 @10:58AM (#18487274)
There is a certain degree of hypocrisy lingering: "I want to know where everything comes from and be in control and yadda yadda", but then you're using yellow plastic gloves probably made in China by some pollution-heavy factory, dishwashers, plastic chairs and sheep-shavers made by people doing those jobs you so despise, and going back to Russia every day in something that is unlikely to be a wind-powered boat... And how is the wind-power guy "off-grid", when his website was an early internet hit and he (like the violin maker) probably derives an income from the "outer world" thanks to his activities?

Living in a society is always a compromise, these people have just struck a slightly different subset of trade-offs -- but to sustain their lifestyle, they are still largely dependent on the wider world being what it is.

Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by vram22 on Monday November 19, 2018 @11:31AM (#18487519)
"No man is an island"

from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devotions_upon_Emergent_Occasi...

Excerpt:

No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.[22] [Donne's original spelling and punctuation]

Sorry, not all that relevant, but it sounds too good, so couldn't resist quoting it.

Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by macintux on Monday November 19, 2018 @11:39AM (#18487579)
I find myself quoting it every few years. An obvious yet underappreciated observation, presented beautifully.
Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by Trufa on Monday November 19, 2018 @11:12AM (#18487375)
It's impossible to be an alive human and don't have any contradiction. To have a couple of contradictions is a show of a reasonable willingness to compromise rather than a complete dismissal of a lifestyle choice calling or calling it hypocritical.

Since I sometimes have to drive my car I won't ever ride my bike.

Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by arm85 on Monday November 19, 2018 @12:26PM (#18487956)
I don't think off grid, means completely isolated from the rest of the world.
Re:A remote UK community living off-grid by upofadown on Monday November 19, 2018 @11:09AM (#18487358)
Pretty sure from context that the person quoted did not actually want to know where every single thing in their lives came from. Off-grid does not have anything to do with income.