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Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by hailk on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:09AM (#18484638)
> preferably without depending on height/reach or overly specific strengths.

How do you attain this? From an amateur hobbyist eye it seems that bouldering as a sport favours lean + tall builds -> Reach + light-weight advantage. How do you set routes that disadvantage this type?

Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by jasonkester on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:17AM (#18484661)
Surprisingly, there's a bit of a bell curve, maxing out at 5'9" being the ideal height. But it only makes about a single grade of difference.

Short folk have incredible strength to weight ratios and fine motor control from short levers. Tall people can reach farther, but can't apply the necessary force or use tiny holds as well. It all evens out in the long run, though you'll see big differences for individual lines that target a single style.

My wife and I climb at the same level despite a foot of height difference. She stays away from my long throws and compression problems. I try not to feel the tiny crimps on her projects, and it all works out in the end.

Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by hailk on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:38AM (#18484729)
Agreed with tiny holds causing problems. But I presumed it was a grip strength problem, which still doesn't take away from my advantage as a tall-leaner. Though it could also be because I must've not done challenging routes.
Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by jasonkester on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:47AM (#18484760)
It is. But again, with longer fingers you need more strength to produce the same force at the fingertip (because you're applying muscle force to the short end of the lever). Combined with the extra weight from the rest of a longer body, it makes pulling on small holds a lot harder for tall folk.

But then we can often simply reach past those small holds to the big jug beyond, so it tends to work itself out.

Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by saiya-jin on Monday November 19, 2018 @04:55AM (#18485217)
I can confirm this - as 188cm tall guy, even if I can reach further, the strain i get on my fingers from my relatively heavy body is taking its toll on the fingers. I can't climb few days in a row, would end up with tendinitis.

It doesn't help that I have a 'flexible type' of the body (can bend like crazy, but tendons/ligament injuries across whole body are much more common). And I started with climbing when I was 30, unlike many in their teens who seem to climb much harder without big effort.

If I would be a competitive person, I would be very frustrated with my little climbing progress. But instead I enjoy the constant challenge, the uneasiness of hard routes, the mental push through in cruxes. As they say, life begins where comfort zone ends. Overall, best sport for me for the warm days (rock experience is vastly superior to gym one), and ski touring/alpinism for the cold ones.

Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by pierrec on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:46AM (#18484756)
Ideally, setters should put up a variety of moves and problems that slightly favor different body types. Also ideally, have forerunners of different body types, and fix the problem if it takes discrimination too far (eg. a move that's literally impossible if you're a bit too short).
Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by GiuseppaAcciaio on Monday November 19, 2018 @05:39AM (#18485429)
I'm tall and lean-ish, and my nemesis are those problems where you are compressed in a tight package... Depending on the climber's own physique and technique, the same problem can often be attacked in completely different ways.
Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by kankroc on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:14AM (#18484649)
As a lean and tall bouldering amateur, anything where my feet gets close to my hands will be extremely hard to keep. Sample size of 1.
Re:How the World's Most Difficult Bouldering Problems Get Ma... by chronial on Monday November 19, 2018 @02:17AM (#18484662)
Make that two :). To elaborate: different body sizes give you different balance points, different leverage and different angles of attack. That can make specific moves harder for taller people.